Kade Bruno

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impressive. Last [music] chance betting the whole damn farm on cracking his hand around a rigging. Bucked off and now he's shuffling [music] the floors of a wild bar with a daylight floor. It's the final crash [music] that'll leave the Yeah, I think y'all should start virtually there.

We're not there long enough to like I know you got to get on to the next one. That's the problem. Half the time we show up 30 minutes before and like in and straight out. Especially the way my traveling partner enters.

Yeah. Yeah. Who were you traveling with? Travel Wyatt Casper and Weston Patterson.

Okay. And Wyatt like I don't know if he ever looks at a map when he enters us, but Oh, he's entering y'all too. Oh, he enters everybody. Yeah, we you enter as a group.

Okay. Yeah, you enter. You can enter in up groups of four. So it's four and down.

You can enter by yourself. You can, you know, just me and you. Like you can enter up to four people, but then that's why they made it that way. So you could travel with three or four guys and then everybody be entered the same day at every rodeo, right?

And so yeah, he does all the entering though. He has our card numbers and it's like a buddy system online. You log into the PRCA's uh portal they call it and then like he can punch in my card number, his card number and Weston's and then when we get in, we get in as a group everywhere. Do y'all pay him to enter for y'all?

And there's guys that do charge um like the rights. Cody, their dad enters all them and they all pay their dad like a I don't know if it's a flat rate or a percentage, but I do know Cody gets paid. And then there's a couple barrel racer girls that started up this little company, started entering people, and like they pay X amount per month. But now I've never paid Wyatt.

I try and do random little things like I bought him a bit one time. Yeah. A pretty nice bit and a head stall. What was it?

Uh Carrie Kelly. Yeah. He was like, "What? What's this for?"

I'm like, "Ah, for entering me." Like, "Thanks." You know? Yeah.

I'm not going to pay you a percentage when I win. Cuz if I had to pay him 10% it'd be like 30 grand. Yeah. It' be a bit.

So, I'm like, "Uh, yeah. Here's a $1,000 bet. Thanks. It's better than better than losing 10 grand."

Yeah. It's a logistically it's also a little It's a little different for y'all compared to like a barrel racer or a Team Roper or something like that. Yeah. I think they have a harder time entering than we do, honestly.

just because of slacks. Yeah, we never have slack. Like you're either in the Perf that night and you can kind of plan around it, but like as far as I know, I don't know a ton about the entering for the timed events, but like pretty sure when they enter, they can enter for Perfs and then if they get thrown up, if there's two or three slacks, then they're up at 8 in the morning somewhere. They might be somewhere that night.

They might be coming from 12 hours away the night before. Like I think it's a little bit tougher for them. And then we can trade, but trades get real messy and I don't know because you know I can call you say I got a group of three and I call you and you're a single. Well, you can only trade one of us and then you break your group up and then you got to try and find two other trades and it's I mean it can kind of be a wreck but that's part of it.

Yeah. How long you been traveling with Wyatt? Three years. Well, yeah.

Three years I traveled with uh And how long you been on part PRCA? Four, five. Five. Five.

Yeah. Yeah. But you qualified for the NFR how many times? Four.

Four times. Yeah. Sick. Well, I was in the We have deals called permits.

And so in 2019 and 20, I rode in the PRCA, but on a permit because you get like they make you fill a permit is what it is. So, like in order to buy your card, you got to prove that you can win a little money. But they have like permit only rodeos. They got like some permit sections like give you better chances.

But then once you fill your permit, you can buy your rookie card. But I was I was going to college and then when you go to back to school, they'll give you an academic exemption cuz like I won enough money on my first permit. I could have bought my card. And they actually make you unless you go to college, you get what they call an academic exemption.

And then you can get another permit since you're going to school. they're not going to make you, you know, go rodeo with the best of them when you're trying to go to college and stuff. So, I had two permits and then 2021 was my rookie year, which I'm really thankful for cuz 2020 co hit and I all those guys that were on their rookie card that year. I mean, just got screwed.

Got screwed. Yeah. They couldn't get into rodeos because we got a qualification system. You don't you can't just buy your card and go in there and get into all the good ones.

And so I was real thankful that I actually went back to school and I didn't stay the full year but I went back for half a semester. Where'd you college rodeo at? I went to two colleges. I went to Northwest and Pal Wyoming for one year and then I did a semester at Sheridan.

Ah okay. Yeah. Yeah. No, it wasn't quite a semester.

I left like December. Okay. Like I didn't make it through the semester. [laughter] College wasn't for me.

I feel you on that. I had fun. Like don't get me wrong, but like the I wanted to go rodeo. I did.

I was and I knew what I always wanted to do. Sounds bad now, but I was kind of using college as like a stepping stone. Like I never really had my dad was fairly upset because I had bull rides and stuff and he was like, "Man, take advantage of it. Like somebody's paying for your school."

I was like, "Yeah, but I wanted to go rodeo." Like I just was what I wanted to do. And I kind of just used college like free practice horses. I could get on whenever I want.

like I wanted to use it and like get better and then just go rodeo. So my dad was both my parents were like come on. Were they were they college people like college educated? No.

My mom never went to college. U my dad he went for a semester as well and then went and rode. It's I actually kind of find that like some people if their parents didn't go to college at all they almost push it harder in ways. Right.

And I get it. Like, but that's what we're taught as kids, right? Totally. Going through junior high, high school, every everywhere you look when you're in school growing up, it's you got to go to college.

You got to go to college. Like they force it down your throat. And now I feel like anymore, you don't really have to go to college to No question. Unless you're going to be a doctor or a pilot or something like that.

Yeah. You're going to have to go to school. But I mean, there's so many jobs out there. And even like my sister, my little sister never went to college and she's going through a she got a job at a hospital like as a admin nurse at first like check people in patients and stuff and like the more she started working there like they're helping her get her CNA and her RN like she never went to school but like they basically just use you in the sense of like they teach you on the go and then after you know you do got to do some classes while like she's going through some classes but she never went to a day of college.

Yeah, dude. This whole idea of uh I'm gonna go to college and just like figure out what I want to do is so bizarre to me. And I think like some of the and this might be a personal thought that nobody else agrees with, but like sometimes I honestly feel like the some of the business degrees or stuff like that. Like they want you to show up, prove that you can show up four days a week, somewhat on time, complete a task on an by a certain day, and like they don't really care what your degree is in as long as you have a degree.

So just discipline. Yeah. Like somewhat proves that you showed up for four years somewhat on time, completed your task. Like that's why I think like some degrees like some jobs like that's all they're looking for is that you have a degree to prove that you somewhat did that.

But like I said, being a nurse or a real doctor, a pilot, I probably want my pilot to go to school. Totally. Well, yeah, you got to go to some like form of like formal education, I think. Yeah.

But yeah, some of these other jobs, it feels like some businesses and companies are starting to catch up to the idea that, you know, some kid going to get like some four-year marketing degree like don't matter. No, you could teach that same kid in a year. You know, would say you and I, you have to go to school for four years and say they just hired me on as like an intern for a while. I'm probably going to learn in one year what I need to do to do that job.

And you waste four years in college and not waste, but you go through four years of college to get to the degree to get to the job that I got to in one year after I interned and like learned the ins and outs of their company, you know? Yeah. Because every company does things different. And I always I think of things like that way.

I'm like, man, like I like certain jobs I do get it, but I just I feel like the college shoving it down kids' throats is just not it's not realistic. Well, we don't nobody really knows how to do anything anymore. Like truly. Yeah.

And you know, that's why it costs $1,000 every time your AC guy comes out to the house or a plumber is a,000 bucks, right? There's tons of like those kind of jobs like the kind of hands-on like the I don't know they call them what blue color jobs. Yeah, like trade jobs. Yeah, trade jobs.

Like that's why them are so expensive because nobody knows how to do it. Those are kind of dying things. But it's also something you don't need to go to college for. No, but you do need Yeah, you but you got to learn.

Like I guess the idea is that it's weird that when we grew up, the only way you could learn how to do anything was to go to college, right? Which is bizarre. If you went and worked for a welder for 5 years, you're going to be a badass welder, right? Like that is learning.

That is educa. I guess it's just weird that unless you went to college, you aren't educated. I agree. And I don't understand why college costs so much.

That's the other thing a lot like 90 I shouldn't say 90 but like 50% of people maybe 60 70 don't have the kind of money just to I mean it's like a year's wage like 60 $70,000. Who can afford that as an 18-year-old? You're starting a business. Oh, pretty much.

And you can't get rid of the debt either. No. So, and then well, unless you get scholarships or, you know, you're wicked smart, you've got academic scholarships or you were like me, like I was on athletic scholarships. Like, I was lucky that I had those scholarships cuz I couldn't have afforded to went to school anyway.

Like, there's no way I could have rich in my pocket and been like, "Here's 30 grand. Let me go to school." It's changing though. Yeah.

Like when I graduated high school, it was it was it people acted like it was more risky to just not go to school and just like start working somewhere. They acted like that was more risky than to just go take out a freaking loan for 60 grand or 70 grand to go to college. Even though a lot of those people like don't know exactly what they want to do. They're just getting a degree to get a degree.

Yep. They get the most broadspectctrum degree you can get. Whether it be just a, you know, a two-year associates in business. Well, you didn't get a specific degree in anything.

You know what I [clears throat] mean? There's a lot of frustrated people that spent all that money and then now they're still just working a job that they didn't even really Yeah. need a degree for and they're frustrated because the high school counselors and everybody were like, "Got to get a college degree." So, I don't know.

It's shifting though. It's changing some. I mean, I don't know what them loans like your student loans. I don't know what them like the interest rates on them, but I don't either.

But I don't think this could be totally wrong, but I don't think you can bankrupt on student loans. Like I think you still owe it. That could be totally wrong though. No, they're going to get their money.

Yeah, right. Yeah, they're going to get their money whether it takes I mean I don't know. You hear people say all the time, you know, 40 years old still paying off my student loans. I'm like, dang.

Yeah. Like that's an over deal that hangs over your head that might take 20 years to get rid of. And I'm [snorts] all about education. Like learn some learn some stuff.

But with the internet, I mean, dude, if you like actually have a little bit of uh motivation, you can freaking learn how to do anything online. I mean that and that's half of it is self motivation. Yeah. If you're if you're a motivated person, that goes in any I think aspect of life.

Just like music, you know, like if I told you, "Hey man, I want to learn how to play guitar." And I showed up here twice a week, every week. I probably learned how to play guitar without going to music classes. Dude, that's how I learned.

I learned on freaking YouTube. Yeah. And you can find, Dude, it don't matter what you're doing. You can find probably some expert in their field that'll just be giving like a two-hour long presentation on how to do something.

It's like, uh, this costs 10 bucks a month to access this. I always called it YouTube University. I always said that to my mom. She hated it.

But I [snorts] would I would be like be driving because I lived in Florida for a little bit and that drive back home. I would just sit there and watch stuff, finance or just anything. Y just learn for free. Y it was hard to go to college classes and have to sit there through some thing that was just like probably already outdated the information.

Oh, for sure. I was like, what am I doing? It's just like I remember in high school like the history books we'd read, you know, like you get your history book and like you look it up and like the published dates like [laughter] 19 years. It's like 19 19 1990 or something.

I'm like, it's 2015. Like, surely they got a new copy of this somewhere. And surely history's changed. Yeah.

I'm like, that's a book we're reading now. Or maybe there's some more. Well, yeah, that's what I'm thinking. There's some more.

Like, there's some newer history that we're missing out on. For sure. We're reading a book from 1990 and like that's what you're learning out of. Like, yeah, the history will never change going back.

But like moving forward, they're not they don't teach any of that. What's your what's your parents do? Like what's your dad do for work? So my dad is a minor I guess.

You ever heard of Molly? Malibdinum. Oh [laughter] yeah. Not Molly.

Hey now that short. We got a freaking Molly minor up there. No, it's a malibdinum mine which is like a additive to steel. Are you saying you're saying malib malibd what?

Malibdinum. Malib. Whoa. That was a tough one.

Malibdinum. I can't even say it. Yeah. It's like a It's like gold.

like you mine it and then it's it comes out in a big rock but then they grind it up. They like goes through a mill crush plant all the things and then it gets to be a powder. Okay. And then it's in used in an additive to steel.

It's like a strengthener to steel you melt it in when you're making metal stuff. And so so most are where are most of those mines in the US? Is there just a ton in Idaho or what? No, there's like four of them or something and one of them's in Idaho.

in Little Chalice, Idaho. There's a partner, it's called Thompson Creek Metals, and there's a partner in Daco, Canada. I'm not sure if it's in Alberta or BC, one of the two. There's a partner to that Thompson Creek mine.

And then yeah, there's not very many of them. And yeah, there happens to be a big deposit in little tiny town in Chalice. And so that mine's been running for probably 50, 60 years. Whoa.

He worked there his whole life. when he went to college and then he rode bulls. So when he got done with his six months of college, he went and tried to rodeo, but he did come back home and started working there and like he would just try and ride bulls on the weekends and he'd take a little time off here and there to go rodeo. And then he didn't, you know, him and my mom were together and they kind of started a family and it was getting to where like rodeoing was he was spending everything he was making working during the weeks to go rodeo and it just kind of wasn't working.

And so he just was like, "You know what? I got to take care of my family and Rodeo's not doing it." So he went just to work. But yeah, he's worked there 31 or 32 years and he's 52 now.

So yeah, he's worked there quite a while. Is that like so it's a pretty rare I guess rock mineral like in I should say not in the world in the Northwest or not in the Northwest in the like Canada and the United States there's only like four of them. Okay. But there are other malinum mines.

Interesting. Yeah. So and then he does that and then he's got a little jack of cows. I got some cows.

I run my cows with him and so I think together we got 50 or 60 somewhere around there. And so yeah, he just on his days off he works seven on, seven off. He's just taking care of cows and working at the mine. And then my mom's a insurance agent.

Oh, for who? Insurance. Uh, is it just like home property casualty stuff? Well, she sells everything now, but she started out working for Farm Bureau and then she left Farm Bureau, went and got all her licenses and stuff and uh her company is called Western Heritage Insurance and it's just kind of not an Idaho thing.

She can do I think she's licensed in Wyoming, too. But yeah, she sells home, ranch, auto, health, she can sell it all. So what was the So if your dad rode bowls, was he did he encourage you there? Like did you did you get on some?

I was a bull rider. I didn't I went to the first county rodeo I ever went to. I was like four. Started riding sheep, went on to calves, steers, junior bulls, and then yeah, I was I was supposed to kind of be a bull rider.

Like I and I did love the bull riding. I got on pile of them. I rode bulls clear through college even into the PRCA on my permits. My first two permit years I was still riding bulls but I had only picked up the Bron.

I picked it up when I was like a freshman or sophomore and I only picked up the bron to earn all-around points cuz I wanted win the all-around. Okay. So, I picked up the brunk riding and I team roped and rope calves and steer wrestled and I was trying to win the all-around and I did but cowboy I'd only picked up the bron riding two trying to win the allaround and then like fast forward I made the high school finals and both the bron and bull riding three times and then when I got to college I was like I might as well keep doing it and then I was going through college and like I we got on tons of practice pools and horses but like I was starting to win more money in the brown riding than I was in the bull riding cuz nine out of 10 times you stay on in the bron riding. But the bull riding, you know, your riding percentage is 50.

And so I was like I was starting to win more money in the bron riding and then it got to the point where like it was going pretty good and all the bull riding was doing like I was riding the odd one out of five. And so like I was just paying double entry fees everywhere. And I was only winning money in the Bronx riding and I was I started thinking like if I'm really going to do this, my career is going to be so much longer if I can stay healthy and get better at riding bron. So I just quit riding bulls.

But I'd made the college finals in the bull riding and the bron riding. So crazy. And then I ended up just giving the bull riding up. Yeah.

What a stud, dude. Lately, I've been thinking I want to kind of get back on. Really? I do.

Like I'd like to go to like a practice pen, get on a handful and see just fill it out, see if you know how it goes. But it's been on my mind cuz the Americans got 2 million up for grabs for a qualifier this year. I'm like, how cool would it be to make the American and the Bronid, but I'm not million-dollar eligible in the Bronid, right? Like how cool would it be to go in both events and like Yeah.

So qualifi or I'm sorry uh if you get an invitation to it, you only qualify for the 100k, right? Yep. But to get an invitation, you just got to be top five. Yeah.

At the after the NFR. So, but if you qualify, you have you can win the million. You can win the million. Yeah.

If you're the only if you're the So they have they say they have a million up, but like say there's calf like the year Wyatt win it. Wyatt won it in 2020 and he split it with somebody. So then they both just got 600,000 because you win the original 100,000 that's up for like me to win. But then he split it I think with a calf roper.

But I thought the only way you can win the million is if you just qualified for it. Well that's if you So if you don't end up top five then you got to go to a qualifier and they have three qualifiers. One's in Vegas, one's in Lexington, Kentucky, and then I think one's in Oklahoma City. So then you got to go to one of those three qualifiers and then they take like the top 10 out of there and then they come to Arlington and then there's like just a qualifier round at Arlington and then uh five guys come out of that and then those five go against the top five from the world standings and so then they have a 10-man round and then out of that four men move on to the next the final round and so you [snorts] you Yeah, that'd be sick, dude.

You just qualify in the bull ride. Yeah. go. Like I said, I'd have to go to one of those qualifiers in the bull riding, obviously be top 10 at the qualifier to get in, but I was I've been thinking about, like I said, $2 million is a lot of money, bro.

That's a game changer. Yeah. And so I'm like, and $100,000 is great, too. But like I said, I probably won't be eligible for that after the finals.

So, I was It's been on my mind. I don't know. I might like I'll see how the finals goes. And then I was there, man.

I want to say the first year they did the American. I can't remember if Wade Sundale won it or if that was the second year. Richmond champion won the million at the very first one. The first one.

Yep. And I want to say that was so Wade may maybe that was like three years in or something. So Wade when did he win it? They've changed it a little bit because Wade got to win a million dollars because he won it three times.

Like they were calling it like the triple crown. He'd won it twice and so like he really wasn't a qualifier. There was like I don't know. I'd have to you'd have to look back and do some research.

Oh, really? Yeah. They let Wade win a million dollars because he'd won it three times. Won the American itself three times.

I didn't know that. Yeah. I was there when he won it cuz I remember when they did the interview after or whatever, he was just they were like, "What are you going to do?" And he was like missing a tooth or something and he's like, "Drinks on me."

[laughter] I think the very first thing he said when they put the mic in his face is that like they stick it over there and the first thing he said was like hello Dallas or something like that. [laughter] Yeah. No, Wade was fun to be around. I wish that guy was still rodeoing.

No kidding, dude. He was fun. He was always down to have a good time and he was a guy that did not care what anybody thought. Just a wild man.

Yeah. I mean, they call him wild man for a reason cuz he was he was fun. But yeah, the Americans changed a little bit and it they've kind of changed it for the better because I won't say it was impossible, but like the qualifiers were tough and like to get through them, they used to take less guys and like now the way they got them set up, they're taking a few more guys. There used to be like one big qualifier, like one huge one and like be 200 entries.

So, it's kind of a drawing contest to get through a set of 200 guys and be one of the 10. Yeah. So, it was kind of a drawing contest. And like now, like I said, they got three and each one gets about 50 60 entries.

So, I mean, they're still tough, but like guys that ride pretty good have a pretty good chance of getting through to be one of the 10. Yeah. And I And actually, the first year I made the NFR, I didn't finish in the top 10. And I had to go to a qualifier back then is in Hebrew City and I won that.

And then I made it all the way through. I got on for a million dollars at my first American. I made the fourman round and ended up third. And you got on four mil.

Yeah, I got on I made the fourman round and I was I was the only million-dollar qualifier in the brown riding. And so like if I won it, I would have won the million. And what did that feel like? Different, man.

It like I'd been on a lot of bucking horses at that point. But I was trying to think of like just it's just another rodeo. Like it's just another horse. Like that's what the way I was trying to go about it.

But I'm not going to lie, the nerves crawling into the bucking shoots with a million dollars on this ride right here. If I win the Bronai and there's four of us right now. At what point did those nerves set in? Did you do a pretty good job of blocking it out for a while?

A pretty good job of blocking out. They really didn't set in until like I was saddling the horse like cuz we had to get on in the 10 man and then they took the four out of it and it was me, Court Shear, Dawson Haye and Stson right and so after it's all said and done we know our four horses like get back from the locker room you know we're getting ready again and because they do a little intermission type deal like a little concert and so like it really hadn't set in like you know I was trying not to think about it everybody's in the locker room we're all high-fiving and telling everybody good job, you know, good luck. And like I knew I'd feather fluffer championships and I had been on him. I just got on him at the NFR and I was like 88 and I was like he's a good horse but there Dawson kind of had the horse to like win it on and [snorts] so I was you know but anything can happen too you know he's got to spur him out and ride him and so I was pretty excited but like I said I held it all back pretty good until like I was saddling him and I'm like holy [expletive] like this is happening like for a million dollars.

That might be counterintuitive to the way a lot of people think about man performance anxiety. Like I said, that's I kept trying to tell myself and like and realistically at the end of the day, it is just another horse. Like it is just another rodeo. It's just the prize is a million.

See, I don't agree with that though. And well, that's the way I was going about it. Like interesting because it's just like at the end of the day, it is just another horse. I've been doing this for 5 years, right?

It's just another But there is more. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like there's a million dollars on the line, but I was trying to think of it like not that way.

Like, oh, this is for a million bucks. See, that's interesting cuz like I'll sometimes try I mean, and it's not even the same world, so I'm not really comparing it, but like having a big show and you're a little nervous for it. It's like sometimes it doesn't help me to be like, I mean, it's just I mean, it's just, you know, it's just another show. It's almost like it helps me to be like it's not and it's bigger and it's going to be badass and you're going to rip like it's going to be awesome.

You're going to crush. But like acknowledging that it ain't the same cuz then it almost like allows me to build my confidence towards it if that makes sense. But if I just act like Well, I get that too. But like I'm a I'm a huge believer in like excuse me um like pressure is privilege.

It is. It was like, you know, you don't make diamonds without pressure and so I've always kind of told myself like pressure is privilege and it's like I like putting myself in them pressure situations, but I handle them a lot different I think than a lot of people do. You know, some them guys probably some other guys would probably be, you know, pumped like trying to psych themselves up, but I was just like, man, it's just another horse. Like just go do what you know how to do.

Like you this is second nature to you. Do you try to break it down into like steps? like small little um I wouldn't say I break it down in steps, but I do like the same thing every time before I get on. Like I got like a I don't know just or maybe not steps, but like do you try to maybe just focus on some basic fundamentals to keep your mind away from like thinking about the money or thinking about um yeah, yes and no.

Like right before like I said I'll [laughter] just making himself comfy. Dude, she likes you. She doesn't normally booger her. Come here.

What are you doing? No. Like I said, I got like a I don't know. It's a system, a pattern.

Like try and do the same thing every time before I get on. And like even if it doesn't happen, I get it. Sometimes we get in a rush and like I can't do everything I want to do. Like at the end of the day, like I said, I was just you've been in these situations before.

Like I try and not make a big deal out of it cuz a lot of people would do that and psych themselves out, you know? So I've always just been more of like the calm, cool, like relax, you know, like going to Vegas next week. Like everybody's talking about the average the world title race and I'm looking at it like 10 one headers. Totally.

So it's like detach yourself from the results. Yes. Every day is a new day. Yeah, it's a the rounds pay 34,000 this year.

Like I'm going to I'm going to 10 rodeos in 10 days. That's the way I'm looking at it. Going out there and every day is a new day. And at the end of the week, would I love to win the average win the world?

Yes. But I'm going to take it day by day and like horse by horse. Do what I can that day with what I have drawn. Ride the best I can.

Sometimes you're just you're outgunned when it comes to horsepower. And that was kind of what I went at it that day for a million bucks. Like I knew Dawson had the horse to win it. And actually him and Stson ended up tying and then they had a ride off that year and Stson ended up winning.

But that's you know like I said it did hit me crawling down in there. I'm like this is for a million bucks. Like if this all goes as planned I could leave in 10 minutes as a millionaire. Yeah.

That thought was running through the back of my head and I was like man just do what you do. Like I guess I kept telling myself do what you do and like said I end up third but it was it was something I'll never forget and realistically it's never happened again. That's the one time I'm nodded my head for a million dollars and like I said the next two years or in the next two years I was top five and so I went back to the American ended up second actually the next year Sage Newman beat me but I wasn't a million dollar qualifier. I was just eligible to win the hundred thousand.

Right. But like I said it was it was something I'll never forget. nodding my head for a million dollars because in rodeo we don't have that opportunity a lot. That's the one rodeo that you get that opportunity and that's life-changing money for anybody in the rodeo world especially.

No doubt. Yeah. Yeah. It's actually pretty gnarly the amount of money.

That's I mean even the rounds at the NFR. Yeah. I mean dude we're talking some serious cash. That's I mean 34,000 I'm not like great with math but say you just win three rounds that's a hundred some grand like and I always try and put that try and keep it into a real perspective like there's people out there that have jobs they work all year not to win 100 grand.

Yeah. In three days I could win it. You know like well it's exceptionally uh what's the word I'm looking for? like deceptive with uh the difference in events though, like the amount of overhead.

Yes. Like that y'all have compared to like a barrel racer or something. I mean, it's not even No, lots less overhead. [laughter] Those guys crazy.

It's almost like it's not even in the same like it's almost weird that everybody's compared in the same uh and we are but nobody like everybody sees I tell people this all the time like my some of my farther away family members, you know, they'll look at the world standings and be like, "Man, you've won 200,000." Yeah. And I'm like, you know what my travel expenses were? Yeah, exactly.

And I'm like, "Yeah, I was I was also gone 6 months out of the year." And so I bought 50 plane tickets and I got a fuel bill and like, you know, I spent 60 70,000 to make that 200. So like my profit margin isn't exactly what it looks like on paper. No doubt.

You know, and like so that's where the finals for us is a big that is a big deal cuz like the time events guys like a truck, a trailer, two or three good horses. I mean, just between the truck and the trailer and two good horses, you're 150, 170, 80,000 into it. Uh, and that's if you, [laughter] you know, haven't spent the money on a jam horse, you know, like Yeah, cuz we're talking 200k for Yeah. Some of those rigs, you know, like a Riley Web, I mean, between his truck, trailer, and the three horses he's got in his rig.

I bet he's looking at 250 300 of what he's got into it. And, you know, you're not spending that every year. You can ride a horse forever, but or not forever, but, you know, four or five years. So like they got a lot more into it.

So yeah, like Riley, he's the same way. He's jumped out. He's won 300,000 roping this year, but like I said, he's got all them expenses that nobody knows about. And the fuel expense for them has got to be even worse than it is for us, dude.

And that's just that's at the very top. Yeah. So like think about the guy that's sitting like 12. Yeah.

Who's like already broke the bank to try to get the nice stick and like has to have the rig, but his year didn't go quite as well. Yep. And it's like, dude, you know, you're rolling into Vegas with freaking 100 grand and yeah, probably debt. You know, you could either be in debt or, you know, like it's one thing to have the stress about like, oh [expletive] I could make this money, like I could be a millionaire.

It's different to be like, I have a tremendous amount of debt and I'm in a deep hole. I have to I have to win. Yeah. And that's I think some of them time event guys like even some of the bottom end guys that make the finals like the steer wrestlers come to mind because they don't have you know we have brought matches and we have some other opportunities some good added money the steer wrestlers I mean you look at the standings and like I think the 15th place guy has got like barely 100,000 so if he has into it what I have into it he's only made 50 and then you know like Vegas is a huge opportunity for him because it makes or doesn't make or break his year.

He's obviously had a great year, but as far as financially getting ahead a little bit, it could make or break him. Dude, that's why like I don't know about um I haven't heard any news about it, but this like whatever it is, the Coggins herpes thing, the EH1 or EHV one. Yeah. Like I haven't heard any more about it, but like they didn't they cancel like the circuit finals or something like that?

Yeah. So, they canceled the A circuit finals. Oh, okay. Um the Prairie Circuit Finals.

That's right. It got cancelled, but that's cuz they put uh and I don't know. It's kind of a weird deal. Like I know a little bit about it.

It's not really affecting stock contractors and uh really even for that matter like the tie-down ropers, the team ropers as much because the outbreak happened at the WP World Finals in Waco, right? And then and then they shut down Guthrie. Yep. My wife was at Guthrie.

Yeah. won. A lot of those girls though went from there to like the 377 in Stevenville. I guess they had a big barrel race there and then there was a BFA and then so it was kind of barrel racers breakaway ropers that had the outbreak going on.

And so I do know they've postponed the breakaway roping finals because it was supposed to be on the second and third because when the outbreak happened and they hit everybody with the guidelines like hey we still we're going to try and make Vegas work. Every horse that went to these events is quarantined until this day. Well, when they said this day, like that was like the fourth or fifth, I think, maybe the third. I'm not sure on the dates, but a lot of those breakaway ropers and barrel racers were like, "Well, that's our finals."

You know, we're not going to go out there without our good horses, which I completely get. And so, yeah, they postponed the breakaway. They did end up canceling just out of [clears throat] trying to get a handle on it. They did cancel like the Bucking Horse fraternity, uh, because it happens that first weekend.

But as far as I know, they're still going to let the WT is that what it is? WTRC team roping? Yeah. They're going to let that go later in the week only because when they set the guideline dates, their roping happens after that.

So even if your horse had been to them, as long as you're quarantined at your house, you don't go nowhere and you got to get like a 7-day health on them or whatever when you get there, then you're good to go. But as far as I know, the like I said, we're the finals is still going. And like I said, it's not really affecting stock contractors because it didn't happen at an actual rodeo, right? We've got no confirmed cases in any bucking horses.

So, I know they're taking precautions out there. Sounds like the barrel racers are going to have a pretty strict little area area out there. Um, but uh this may not even be public news, but they did cancel our grand entry as far as we all ride in on horses just for the simple fact for every round. for every round.

Yeah, there'll be no grand entry this year. There will be a grand entry, just not on horseback. And we don't know as even contestants yet what it's really going to be. They're trying to figure it out.

But and that was one of the best parts, dude. It is one of the best parts. And but I mean, hey, I mean, shoot, dude. I think that's kind But that kind of goes back to the idea of like Yeah.

Yeah. Take the precautions because like canceling it in totality. I mean, dude, there would be people that would be so screwed. Well, people that are going to be screwed and I don't know when we'd reschedule cuz Christmas is right around the corner and then there's real no time.

There's no time in January, February, March to like redo it, right? Bro, and think about the amount of companies and businesses, flights out there and booths at Cowboy Christmas. I mean, there's so much money. Well, and that's it's the biggest event for Vegas, too.

Well, and they said the year that we had the NFR here in Arlington during CO like dang near broke Vegas. like no [expletive] The what the money the money that comes to town during these two these next two three weeks is like their biggest week in and like in so much of a way that it dang near broke the entire town the year they didn't have Vegas. Yeah. It's interesting the year after Yeah.

So, like the year after that, uh, like I could even tell like even like a lot of the blackjack dealers and like just people that work there and stuff were they're always like really nice typically when all of us are out there. Bunch of drunk cowboys spending money. Yeah. And then everybody like is like relatively respectful.

Oh yeah. It does it does bring in a totally different culture than I think most of those people in Vegas are used to cuz like anybody you talk to that works out there during it, they love it. like everybody tips good and they're polite and I mean for the most part like but we still get rowdy and uh but then that year after they were like over the top like thankful. Yeah.

Like like I said, I didn't realize that's the kind of effect the NFR had on the town itself until that happened. And yeah, it's Bro, did you hear about uh Oh, I don't even know if this is public knowledge. I don't know if I should say this. the freaking cat that used to uh manage the MGM and then he moved over to [snorts] I think it was Resort World.

I wouldn't even know who manages it. Uh but like you know how like the MGM used to be like the freaking place to be. Oh yeah. Uh well like whoever the I think it was the GM or something.

He moved and then that's when everything kind of moved over to Resorts World. Yep. But I think he just got freaking tagged for like embezzling a bunch of money over there. Really?

Yeah. Dang. Yeah. Which I could see it not and not I don't know how like in a big company like that though.

How do you even get away with that? I don't know. I'm probably not smart enough to pull off something like that. I'm not either.

[laughter] That's why I like trying to think about how a guy would go about that. I'm like I don't know. But honestly, it couldn't If you're at the GM, you're at the very top. He probably knows things that nobody else knows.

Obviously running that place, but like the amount of money they bring in. I mean, I just think about like when I go down there, you know, and the amount of people you see gambling every night, I would want to know what like a table makes a night. Like when they pull that cash box out, what's in there? You know what I mean?

I don't know how people really afford to gamble there for the most part. I usually like to go off the strip because you can find some tables that are a little bit cheaper, but like if you're there, I mean, really any night at one of those main strip casinos, like a blackjack table or something, it's $50 a hand and they're full. Full. Yeah.

There's not half the time you have to sit around and wait 10 15 minutes for somebody to lose their money and get up and go get more. What do you do? Do you play when you're out there at all? Man, I do.

I try and try and go to bed early. I When I was a little bit younger, I was a little wilder. [laughter] I'd stay out. I had some fun nights and spend all, you know, get back to the room at 4:00 a.

m. go to bed and like have an autograph sign, get eight, show up, have to wear sunglasses because I look like [expletive] But those years have kind of passed. I'm not I try and get to bed and like I said the first couple times I make it I've always treated it as a business but being a young kid in Vegas 21 I was I was young on the odd you play craps or blackjack or what? I'm a blackjack player.

I don't like craps and blackjack obviously isn't the best odds in the house, but it's right. It's what I enjoy playing. Okay. And I like sitting down with some buddies and like we all kind of you know when you sit down next at a table with a bunch of randoms, they're doubling on weird stuff and like screws the table they say.

I'm always like, "Yeah, I'm out." Like I don't want to play with those guys. But I like sitting down with a bunch of buddies and like we all kind of play together and like if one wins we all win, I guess in a sense. Like that's what I like playing.

See, that's why I like craps, though, is if you have a group, right? That's the only tough part is cuz craps tables are always so full, so it's hard to get your whole group on it. But if you do and like somebody's got a long roll or a hot roll or something, dude, it's so fun. And just everybody's high-fiving.

Oh, yeah. I mean, I guess you get that at blackjack, but it's like you do, but I know what you're talking about. You'll be sitting at a blackjack table and you just hear people going crazy behind you and everybody's like, "What's that, dude? The best.

Like, what's that?" And there's just people high-fiving, hugging. Yeah, I get it. Like on a hot like Yeah.

freaking hot roll, man. And I actually I don't even like playing cards at Resorts World cuz I feel like through the last couple years being there, everybody you talk to, like nobody really wins good. Oh, you don't think so? Everybody I've talked to, nobody wins big.

Interesting. Everybody that I like to gamble with or that goes gambling always goes to the South Point. There's also something about But they also have cheaper tables there. You can still find a 10 or $15 table.

Yeah, that's where I'm at, bro. Yeah, that's I love the South Point. That's where I stay. Yeah.

And you can freaking rip heaters, too. Oh yeah. Well, you can reserve tables, too. Not that I wouldn't.

Not that. Yeah, dude. I ain't judging, [laughter] but No, the tables there, you can reserve them at South Point. Yeah.

How does that work? Like if you if you're going to sit down with like 2500 bucks. Yeah. You can tell that dealer like this table's reserved.

Like sit down with 2500 and say you're going to play like $100 hands. You can make it to where nobody else can sit down with you. Oh, well that kind of defeats the purpose of Yeah. Yeah.

But if a guy like I see you see like the serious gamblers. Oh yeah. Like if they're sitt wanting to make good money like you'll see somebody with a little reserve deal on the table and he's like sat down with whatever. I don't know.

It might be more. Mhm. And like those are the guys that win good money though probably kind of. It takes money to make money.

Takes money to lose it too. Well yeah but I think you see them guys sit down with like 2500 bucks and they might get Don't fall for it. They are not making money. Well I don't know.

Just wait like 10 years. they'll lose it. Well, yeah. 10 years they'll lose it.

But I've seen guys sit down with like 2500 bucks and like of course you're going to lose some hands, but like they start doubling and like you get lucky a few times and like walk away with 10 grand one night and I'm like dang. Like scare money don't make money, dude. Well, that's what I'm saying. Takes money to make money.

Yeah. But you do have to bet it to be able to win it. Exactly. And that's I've never been that guy.

Like, you know, I'm betting not table minimum, but like I'll bet 50, 100 bucks every now and then. But what's the number that you get the little the little freaking butterfly on your chest? Probably two 200. Yeah.

Yeah. Spending 200 bucks a hand and then like bus card shows up and you've got, you know, a double showing and I'm always like, "Yeah." Then you got to go 400. Yeah.

Then you got to go 400. I'm like face down. I don't want to see it. Like I always go face down.

Yeah. And then I hope they bust and then if they don't then it's like I don't want to see it. Have you heard about people I guess it's the gambling addiction thing that they get just as much excitement losing as winning? Are you serious?

Yeah. I think that's like part of the addiction mindset or whatever. Like they just the action is what they actually that's why like when they lose they just cannot uh it's almost like they have this they their actions end up being the same regardless of if they win or they lose. If they won they would just bet more.

If they lost they would just bet a shitload more. See that's not me. I hate losing. Me, too.

I hate losing. Yeah. Like, dude, that gut. Yes, that gut.

Like, there's nothing worse than going back to your hotel room after you've just lost $700. Like, no, no, no. That's terrible. See, I love to play poker.

I play a lot of poker, but like a totally different game. Uh, obviously, I mean, you're playing against people and humans. So, it's like my feeling of leaving like if I lose quite a bit of money playing poker, it's like sometimes I'll leave and know things I did wrong. Right.

Right. And like I just am kicking myself. It's actually way harder cuz I like I know that I did some things that like I shouldn't have done or made some bad plays or something. When I sit down to like actually gamble blackjack or craps or something, I pretty much just already mentally lit that money on fire.

Like I'm not sitting down with something I can't lose, right? And so when I lose it, I'm like I want to win it. It'd be more fun to win it. But if I lose it, I already I'm like, well, I'm the same way though.

Like I'm never going to sit down with more than I, you know, if it's going to break me, I'm not sitting down with that amount of money, you know, if I need it. But have you seen anybody like have a complete like meltdown come apart? No, I wouldn't say I'd rarely have. I Ben Anderson one time.

I watched Ben lose like eight grand one night and I and I've lost two grand in a night. Yeah. I watched Ben get down like lose it and then all of his cards were shut off. Like he was just going to win it back and like keeps going back.

Well, they shut all his cards off. They're all maxed out, you know, 24-hour deal. And then like but the next day, I will say he did he went to Backarat and I hate Backarat. It makes no sense to me.

It's just like a coin flip. Yeah. He went back to back and won like five or six of a back the next morning. See, here's the deal, man.

If he freaking loses another six grand that next day, then you're 12, bro. Yeah. Then you're 12 in the hole. See, that's what I'm talking about, though, is like that thing where it's like, you're down.

I'm going to win it back. I've been there, but only with like four or 500 bucks. Like, yeah. And that's when I sit down and like I had cards to win.

That's what makes me mad is like that's when I'll go get three or four or 500 more bucks because like [laughter] you're getting dealt 19s, 20s and then they're hitting 21. Like you have winning cards. Yeah. And like that's when I'm like, "All right, I'm going back."

Like go get 500 more, come back. Then if they take that, usually I'm like, "All right, I'm out." Yeah. Well, this is just my sign to go to bed.

I'm down a thousand bucks. Yeah, for sure. I've only I think I've just truly dejeded like one time. time.

It was in an atl Atlantic City for a bachelor party and I raised my debit card limit like five times. I was also like I was I was on that horseshoe money too at that point. So, it's like I was like a little different in a different spot, right? And uh I remember like calling my bank and I was like pretty hammered too and it was like 8:00 in the morning or something just totally ridiculous.

And uh I remember calling my bank and I and like I don't know why I was like acting like I was doing something like illegal, but I was like over there in the corner like, "All right, look. Are you just serious? I'm in a real tight spot here." But like I wasn't saying I'm at a casino like they care.

It's my money. Yeah. You're looking around, [laughter] hey, put some more money on my card. I need I need to raise my card limit.

And she's like, "Okay." you [laughter] know, and so it's like every time I called back, it was like the same thing. They're like, "Okay." Yeah.

So, I did it like five times. And finally, like the last hand I bet on was just outrageous. And I remember the dealer like out there too is the Northeast. So, they're super rude.

And of course, I was like Canadian tuxedo and like cowboy hat, right? And they were so rude, dude. Not really a cowboy scene, bro. They're just like rude in general.

Really? Yeah. Like you lose a hand and they like talk [expletive] to you. [laughter] Really?

Yeah, makes me feel better. At least you with the Asian ladies at the South Point pick. Ah, sorry honey. Better luck next time.

I will take I'll take that every day. No, this lady like I pushed it out there and I lost [snorts] like my last stack and uh she goes, "Why' you do that?" [laughter] What? Thanks.

Yeah, thanks. Just add salt to the end. 9:00 a. m.

So, I went and got room service. I do what you got to do. Yeah. A bunch of waffles.

Bunch of waffles. Didn't really help. Then I was just sick on the airplane. Anyways, it was a mess.

I've never been down there gambling, but I don't think I'm going to go now. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Atlantic City sucks. Man, I've The song Heard the song Atlantic City sounds great when he plays that song, but I've heard that.

Yeah, Bruce Springsteen definitely makes it sound more fun. Yeah. Than it actually is. Vegas is like way better.

So, like, why are you down here right now? Are you So, I'm buying a place down here right now. Really? Where at?

Uh, Haiko. Oh, yeah. Sick. Yeah.

done my haiko. I I moved down here. Well, we come got to come down here for three months and rodeo every year anyway. And uh last year I stuck around a little bit and kind of spring rodeoed out of here.

And living in Idaho, I was never home rodeoing. Like you make the finals. So you go out there in December for two weeks and then you go home for Christmas and then first January rolls around, you head to Denver. From Denver, you come down here to Fort Worth.

Then they got all them world's toughest rodeos back east for us and you know the South Carolina, North Carolina, uh Florida, you know, so we hit a handful of them. Then you go San Anton, Houston. So you end up just staying down here to go to all these rodeos because there's so much going on. And then springtime kind of rolls around.

Usually drive your rig home and then there's all the California rodeos. And so then you drive out to California and you rodeo in California for a month and a half and then before you know it's June and you're entered in the summer run and you're never home. And so then the rodeo season ends and anymore it really doesn't end for us. Like yeah our year ends like boom September 30th you've either made the finals or you haven't but then October 1st new season starts.

Yeah. All that money counts toward the next year. Well, then they put like my circuit finals is up in October. Um, they put our biggest bron match of the year, the highest paying bron match of the year, first week of the new season.

So, you're out there. You don't go home. And then like from there, Mitch Pollock's got his awesome Brunk match that gives away 10 bread heers for the winter. And so then you're there and then you've made the finals.

So now you well I need to kind of keep going. So you keep chipping away like I went to Indianapolis. I went to Phoenix to the Hondo. Like season kind of never really ends.

But living down here, I get to be home at least January. You know, cuz you can rodeo out of the house if you live in Texas. It's like I said, the place I'm buying in Haiko is hour and a half from Fort Worth, 3 hours from San Anton, four from Houston. So like, yeah, you got to go over there for three days, but you get to come home and you're home for a week before you got to go back.

And so I was just like, man, if I And I And I like the weather down here. That is, too. You know, Idaho's beautiful. I love it.

It'll always be home. I'll probably go back one day. But for right now, doing what I'm doing, rodeoing, I got to be home way more if I just buy me a little place down here, have some horses. Like, you know, we always find something to do, but realistically at the same time, like you only ever have like a week, week and a half, two weeks to mill around, find something to do, and then you're back on the road.

So, yeah. It is weird to be so focused on the next year while you still have the finals coming up. Yeah. I've always thought that was odd.

And like we did we did I did it this year like uh so traveling with Wyatt misses the NFR one spot he's 16th by a thousand bucks. But like that first week we're in New Town. Why wins 40 grand he wins Brown. He wins all three rounds I think.

Or no he wins the first two rounds maybe second or third in the short round but wins the average. Yeah. Like a wild start to the next year. Yeah.

He wins 40 grand. You look at the world standings right now. Wyatt Casper's got 45,000 like already. Yeah.

Already. and it's October 5th like [laughter] and so like then you know I went to the circuit finals went to Mitches. Mitches isn't sanctioned with PRCA but like I still won I won the 10 bread heers and 10 grand. Oh hell yeah.

You know that's money in the pocket and so then you know I go to the circuit finals and then like you said you're rodeoing for next year but you yeah I still got to go to the finals but I'm trying to get some money for next year and like I said it's almost gotten to where it never really ends. Like if you really wanted to, you could rodeo every day of the year. Yeah. But shoot, getting healthy.

And that's like I said, this is actually one of the first years I've stayed pretty healthy. And I've had some freak accidents is what the reasons I wasn't healthy in the past. Um actually broke my leg riding bulls 2016 and that injury kind of rared its head again in like 22 and 23. Like I had a couple horses fall on it.

Just weird deals. Missed their feet. Muddy. Was it your um my left leg?

Yeah, my femur. Femur. Oh, my femur. Like I got kicked by a bull, broke completely in half the first time.

So they put a rod, titanium rod, and screw kicked. So you were Where were you at? I was in Idaho Falls, Idaho. But I just come off funny and landed like on all fours and like I went to raise my leg and that bull spun around and like just stepped on it and freaking Yeah.

Right there. And so like on video, uh my sister used to have it. I deleted it. I didn't like watching it.

You could see it like my foot hit me in the head. Like it was broke. Broke and Yeah. Oh yeah.

And uh like I got to the fence and I was like hopping up the fence and my leg just looked like a pendulum and a clock. You passed out, right? No. No, I didn't pass out.

No. And it fell off the stretcher once. It was It was brutal. Yeah, it [snorts] was brutal.

And like it obviously it's my femur, so they're worried about my Sorry, I'm blasting. No, you're good. The way that you said it. No, you're good.

Fell off the stretcher once. [laughter] I did. So, you walked over to the stretcher? I Well, I tried to get up and walk like I crawled as soon as he stomped on me like instantly.

I kind of knew I crawled to the fence, [expletive] [laughter] But I tried to get up and walk, but like I obviously you get up on this leg and like this one just flops. And so like I go back down like crawl to the fence and I crawling up the fence and like hopping with this leg on the panels. I'm like leaning over and I knew something was wrong. Like the bull fighters come over, the bull left and like bull fighters come over.

I'm pretty sure my legs broke. They were like, "Really?" And I'm like, "Yeah." Like we're calling medics and the ambulance over and they actually they don't break the panels, they continue to help me go up and I go over the fence with my leg and then I like hop down and then they had like a the by then the ambulance pulled in.

It was at a fraternity bull riding so like the arena was cut in half. So like they pulled right in right there and then they helped me go sit down and like I was sitting in it on the chair and then they're like you need to get in the stretcher like you're going now like this surgery and dude that's like that's like life-threatening kind of well that's what they were worried about cuz like my I was trying to get my shafts off but like my I don't have huge legs but like my pant leg was full like my leg was so big so they're like cutting my jeans off and like they're looking at it and they're like yeah you got to go and they didn't know if it had my artery or not probably would have been dead you know 5 minutes went by probably would have been dead if it really got it. And so like they're rushing me in and stuff like that. But yeah, like they went to switch me from that chair to the stretcher and like they got me over there.

I was sitting there and then like put this leg up and then they went to put this leg up and they didn't get my foot like all the way on it and then they went to like move the stretcher and it just like fell off. Bro. Yeah. So you didn't pass out that whole time?

No, I didn't pass out time. No, I never got sick. I was yelling at the lady actually cuz they were trying to put IVs like immediately in my hand and she was looking at my leg. I think she was more scared than I was.

Like she was like shaking. She tried like two or three times and finally I slapped her hand and I was like get me a real medic. I'm like I'm not a pin cushion. Like get somebody that can hit this vein.

It's I was getting mad like [laughter] I was I was pissed. I was like oh she was just having a meltdown. Yeah. Like she was nervous like she and I don't know if I made her more nervous the fact that I was kind of treating her like no big deal.

Like I got a pretty high pain tolerance, but like I also had that much adrenaline. Like I could feel it. Like it nothing was real yet. And like I was like she just kept stabbing me with this needle.

I'm like I can't I can't get it. I can't get it. And finally I was like give me somebody new like somebody that can hit this. And uh what did they bring over?

They brought some guy to come over and like just one time got it. And I was like, "Yeah, I see." And then they just loaded me up, took me straight to the hospital and like I it was emergency surgery for a minute. Like they rushed me in there and it was like every show you've ever seen like rushing somebody in.

That's how it was. I mean doors flying open like they cuz I didn't know if it had got my heart yet and so like I went to go in to have emergency surgery. Had they already given you some sort of pain? Yeah, they gave me morphine in the already in the Bro, were you just okay?

No, not really. Like I said, the adrenaline, everything hadn't it was the weirdest thing. Like, but once they got me in there and they took like the doctor looked at it one time, asked like how long ago and they were looking at everything and they're like, "I don't we don't think it got his artery. Like, he should have been dead by now."

And so they slowed down, took an X-ray, and then once they were looking at it, you're good. Yeah. If it was a big deal, you'd be dead. Exactly.

[laughter] Okay. But like say my leg still swoll up huge. And then once they realized that it was it was broke bad, but like it crossed like it broke all the way in half and then went back like this. And so then once they realized though like I wasn't my artery was fine, they actually put me in what they call traction and they just grabbed my foot.

Literally grabbed my foot and just pulled it until the bones come back like this. And then they hung a weight off the end of the bed to keep my leg in traction because my obviously your muscles contract, right? So it was like stuck like that. Well, then when they pulled [snorts] it down like this, your muscles keep contracting because they know something's wrong.

So it like keeps contracting. So they had to hang a weight off the end of my foot and I had surgery the first thing the next morning. Like I had I was in traction for like eight hours or something. And that sedate the hell out of you or what?

I don't know. They did that before I got anything. And like I was I could feel like it I was screaming at that point. Like not all night like it kind of well to put me in traction.

And I didn't have nothing. Like they just grabbed my foot and like pulled it back. And that one was just insane, right? Yeah.

[clears throat] No, I like I said, I lost it then. I could feel it then. Like I was grabbing like screaming. My And by then both my parents were there and my mom's like watching me just have it come apart.

My mom's like she was kind of freaked out. And like I said, once I got it set, they just hung that weight off the end of the bed. And then like first thing that next morning, I had surgery and it all went good. And but yeah, it was worst pain you've ever had.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. There's nothing where And that's what they say like that's the hardest bone to break in your body.

I thought that's the one like you'd pass out. And I know never pass out or die, right? Or if Yeah, I was lucky. Mine was like a clean break.

There was no fragments like it I mean in half like saw. You remember? Actually a bull. Yeah.

He later that next year was on the PBR tour. He was a four-year-old. Like I said, it was one of the materies and he was Oh, so he was nasty. He was pretty juicy.

Yeah, I had probably no business getting on it as a 17-year-old kid, but uh he they call him Twinkle Toes. Okay. And uh like the next year, like I said, I went on sitted home to watch Glarammy Marchie and JB Mooney ride him on tour and I'm a 17-year-old kid at home. I'm like, I had no business getting on that dude, you know?

But that's how them maternity goes. Them guys got all their best three and four year olds. They show up with them and like obviously the PBR guys aren't showing up to a fraternity. It's like they get a bunch of young bull riders, whether they're in high school, 20s, whatever, and you know, that aren't really at that level, enter all these furities.

Well, yeah. And now they're having problems with finding enough people to get on them. Yeah. Now they [laughter] can't get anybody to come get on them.

But I mean, it's like, exactly. They're rank. Them guys aren't going to come get on them. The PBR caliber guys aren't going to come get on them things for the amount of money that fraternities pay because they're kind of for the animal, you know?

And so like, yeah, they struggle getting riders at those type of deals now. But yeah, that was how I broke my leg the first time. Then, like I said, well, I mean, shout out to Twinkle Toes for the clean break at least, you know. Yeah, he did it good.

You know, if he's going to do it, he does it right. Yeah, I can show you a picture. That's what I respect most about him. I can show you this picture.

Might make it. I don't know. Do you get sick with that kind of stuff? Well, I don't like love to I don't like enjoy seeing it.

Uh, but it won't make me sick. I can't say it makes me super excited. It might make it a little more cuz I mean I halfway like you too so it doesn't you know Yeah. So that was Yikes.

That was the break. Can they Could you see it on there? Yeah. Yeah.

It was pretty gnarly. So Yeah. Then they have to pull it. They had to pull my Well, I guess it was like this.

My knee the but they had to pull it back to where it stayed like that. That was your girlfriend just texted you. Oh yeah. Hit her back.

I don't have a girlfriend. So, trick question. Trick question. Dude, that's insane.

Yeah. No, it was Well, so now you're still struggling with some stuff from that like cuz they probably had to put like rods. They put a rod in it. Yeah.

But then I had a horse fall on it like rared out and missed his front feet and like fell right on it and that's right where my swell is, you know? And so like it actually it chipped. It was the titanium rod is so strong like that horse landing on my leg chipped bone instead of breaking it again which it like when I went in like cuz it kind of swoll up and it got pretty tender like to touch it like I couldn't touch it like it after it chipped it. Yeah.

It hurt so bad like to go like this like I couldn't even do that. And were you like oh I broke it again. I kind of thought I did. Yeah.

And so like I'd give it a day or two though and like obviously I wouldn't be able to walk. I couldn't put a lot of pressure on it though. So, I give it like a day or two and then I actually went to the vet because he doesn't charge for X-rays. I was like, "Doc, you gota x-ray this thing."

So, the vet, he's cool. And yeah, heamine Yeah. No, he x-rayed it and you know, he it pops up and he was like, "Whoa." He was like, "Man, you got some Yeah, there's some chips in there.

Like, there's some fragments floating around." And so that happened. I took a month off. I didn't really know what to do about it.

I hadn't went to a real doctor, but like it kind of got to where I could walk on it after a month. Like I was walking on it like I could sit in my saddle again kind of push on it like it was feeling better. But that's like right where your swell is. Yeah, it was right where my swell was.

So then I just put a pad over it. I got this big gel pad and I just let my saddle out a little bit in my bind and put this It was like this big. I put this pad on it and I rode like that for the rest of the year. Made the finals and then after the finals it got pretty sore again.

So I went and had it looked at again and it was like the almost the exact same X-ray. like nothing had really changed, but I'd kind of learned to deal with the pain and like the inflammation, the swelling all went down and then I just kept going with it and like to this day it still has a little chip in it, but it hasn't bothered me. Yeah, I can't imagine it. It wouldn't.

Well, I could find if I'm going to show them I guess I'll show them all. Like I said, I got an X-ray of the chip, but it the like said, it's weird that they told me by the time I went to a real doctor, he was like, "Man, if I'm being real honest, like if you're getting by doing what you're doing, it's like not affecting your everyday life. It's not affecting the way you ride. Like, you can stick with it.

But on the other hand, like if I was you, I'd probably go in and get it taken care of. Like, we can take them chips out, that bone will reheal." And I was like, "Man, I don't know." like what about taking the rod out?

He was like, "Man, if you take the rod out," he's like, "You're out a year letting that thing like re basically heal." And so I was like, "I don't I don't want to take a year off." So I just left it in there. Yeah, that's so gnarly, dude.

But like I said, it's not bad now. And I've actually got to where this is the first year I wore the pad all year until July. And then in July, I was feeling really good. Like as healthy as I've ever been, so I took the pad off and it hasn't luckily I haven't had any horses fall on it.

Like I haven't taken any hits. Like nothing bad's happened this year. Yeah. So I like I said, I've just kind of learned to deal with the pain and it's been pretty good.

Yeah. Yeah. What a uh what a different world. I do believe most all of y'all have something different with your pain tolerances.

Clearly. Yeah. There's something psychologically different about y'all, man. I I sw I No, people do say that, but like I Well, and that would go for the same as like guys that like race motocross.

Those guys have metal in their body everywhere and they're still walking around like nothing. Like they're I don't know. I it we as cowboys, we are a different breed and even then rodeo cowboys like Yeah, it's still even different. Like you said though, it kind of goes back to like being tough is one thing, but there is this pain threshold that like I don't know.

Some of y'all just That's why I feel like no matter what happens, like I don't have a backup plan. I don't have a second job. I got little jacked cows, but like they're not going to pay my bills. Oh yeah, that's the rod.

Yeah. So that's the rod. And you can see on the inside there chips and fragments. Oh yeah.

Yeah. I was only two screws. Well, that's just in my knee. I got There's more up here.

[laughter] You can't You can't see the whole thing. I accidentally swiped right. That wasn't good. You'd have seen a cool video if you did that.

[laughter] But yeah, no, it's been like I said, I've kind of struggled with it, but like and that's why I kept going. Like I was struggling with it. I got hurt and like I at times I didn't ride quite as good, but I was still making the finals with this injury. And so I'm like, why quit now?

Like things are going so good. I've built kind of a name for myself. Like it's going good. Like I'd hate to take a year off, you know?

And so I've just kind of learned to deal with the pain and like said over time I've luckily not had any wrecks this year and it's kind of just went away like the pain and so yeah. Well, I'm a huge fan. I saddle bron is my favorite event. There's your favorite event.

Yeah. No doubt. Man, it's it's beautiful. I love bull riding, don't get me wrong.

But I there is nothing better than a good Bron. Well, what's interesting is uh like I have a dream about owning buck and bulls. Okay. I love I love bull riding and I just love the bulls, right?

But so for whatever reason like I get more jazzed about the bulls than I do about like the actual bucking horses, right? But ride like I love saddle bron like the actual art of riding them more than bull ride. I love them. I love it all.

But like I think the difference like I love the I love all rough stocks. Like obviously as a as a guy that does it for a living like you love it. But the bull riding and the bearback riding are more of a fight to me. Like agreed.

You're going to crawl down in there and you be better be ready for a fight because it's a fight. But in the Bronx riding, like I think it's more of a dance. Like it's rhythm, it's timing. Like, and don't get me wrong, it's still a fight in a sense, but at the same time, you know, like they call it saddle bron riding.

Like you're it's not bron saddle riding, you know? Like there'll be guys that fight saddles and stuff, but I'm like, man, it's such a rhythm and timing deal. Like just it's poetry in motion. Put it that way.

Like when it goes good, there's nothing better than watching a good Yeah. There was a ride that I saw. I can't I'm going to get it wrong. I'd be curious if you remember.

I want to say it was at the NFR like maybe in 23 there was a horse called Arctic Plum. Yeah. And I saw a gnarly video of that and like it's cork screwing and like it was nasty. Mhm.

That horse had been in the Ein. You could even see guys back there on the shoots. They're just like Oh yeah. In the video you could see.

And we all know that horse and like I'm not going to lie to you. Like I we'd seen the horse throughout the year and it he always does that like especially indoors little pens. He's got some stuff to him and but the bad part is like you put him out. Oh, so the smaller the pen he'll get even shiftier.

Yeah. Like you put him outdoors Calgary just hops in a circle like hops. But he's big, he's strong and Yeah. Like that was I'm not going to lie.

Like I'm kind of I kind of think of myself as like a one of the guys that can get along with anything. Like you run a bucker underneath me, good. you run anything underneath me like I feel like I can handle anything that horse like we watch have some trips in San Anton Fort Worth that we're like whoa that thing's that's all there and so we get to that's round four it's our eliminator pen and like I'm looking at the sheet the night before like cuz they draw every night after the rodeo and so we get on in round three and you know I don't know I think I maybe won the first round that year either way like I'd had a decent little week so far. It's only round four and I had one couple checks and I was like feeling pretty good and I like look at that sheet and I'm like man like I'd take any of them but this is what like intuition I'm like I'd take any of them but I don't want to get on that one like that's the one that I would really like to avoid and an hour later look at the draw and I'm like [laughter] you better bear down like there is no backing down from that one like and later in the week so you got to buck every horse the first Five rounds are all new horses every they're all pinned but starting with round six we go back through those horses.

So like we start with the I want to say we start with the two pen this year which is like our souped up hoppers and then we'll go to the three pen which is semi- eliminators and we go to the one pen which is hoppers, the four pens the eliminators and the five pen TV pen. And so we it's set like we all know what horses and what pen. But once you get on a horse at the finals you can't draw that horse again. But every night after the round, my I think it's the highest marked three horses have to go back and get bucked again because we have alternates.

There's five horses that sit out every night. We take 20 out there in each round. And so like the five that don't go in and we try and pull the bottom five out of the that next round. So like we'll substitute them horses out.

Well, I get done riding that thing and everybody else in the locker room like, "Man, Bruno, great ride. Like, you tamed him." And I'm like, "God, I didn't win a check." Like, I like 82 points.

Pretty tough. Pretty tough horse to ride to be 82 points and not win a check. Well, that's one of the most confusing things to most people that like don't uh understand the judging and the scoring. Yep.

It's same with bull riding. stuff that you know and there's something to be said about something just look just looking nasty and it's like super hard to ride but it just doesn't score well. Well, and that's the thing like I did miss two jumps or whatever, but that's like what I always want to tell them judges like you got to give a guy grace when a horse is doing that. How do you expect to spur through it and not miss a jump?

Like you're going to miss a jump. Reward the cowboy for taming the dragon. Why do you think that's never changed with the with the judging? It's kind of always been like that.

Their judges are old. Okay. All of them. They're old school.

Yeah. and half of them, you know, they'll watch it and be like, "Oh, yeah, that was ranked." But then they're like, "Oh, he didn't move. You know, he missed two jumps."

I'm like, "Man, you strapped yourself to that thing and tell me you were even going to stay on." Like, it I just don't think they realize now. Like, times have changed. Horses have changed.

I think our horses now are consistently better than they, you know, those guys still had their buckers then, but I think now we got more good horses. We have more ranker horses, too. And as judges, I think they just kind of they're not stuck in the past, but they're well, they are in terms of the guys. Like they'll mark them horses.

Like that's where I was going with that story. We get back in the locker room, everybody's like, "Man, get rid of him. Like pull him." Like nobody wants to have to get on him next round.

Well, he was like the third highest marked horse in the round, so he has to get bucked again. And so like later in the week, somebody else gets on him, does the same thing. Well, yeah. So explain that to me cuz it's like they obviously marked him high, right?

They crucified me. They d you. They crucified me. That to me doesn't make any sense, right?

But like I said, well, if you look at our rule book, I mean, I sort of get it, but yeah, if you look at our rule book, I guess per criteria, yes, I missed two jumps. That is technically you have to dock that. But as the difficulty and the degree of the horse goes up, I think we ought to get some leeway, which some judges do, some judges don't. Like some judges let you miss a jump or stub your toe.

I understand how it's tough because you're trying to make it as objective as possible, right? At the end of the day though, it's judged. It is like opinion based. It's opinion based.

And we could have four judges in this room. You could play that video and they're all going to have a different score. All going to have a different opinion. And that's where I say jud judging.

I never want to be a judge. That is one of the toughest positions to put yourself in. And I'm going to be on the judge's side. those guys don't get paid enough to do what they do.

They don't their pay is not good enough to be put in the situations they're put in. But at the same time, yeah, you are that but that's the problem with a judge event and we'll never change that. It's always going to be somebody's opinion and everybody has a different opinion. So, no doubt.

I mean, and you got judges that yes, we get judges that get close and they're very similar, like-minded, but at the same time, you're still judged event. Yeah. And now you have the other comp. I mean, obviously rodeo came out of entertainment fundamentally.

That's like where it started, right? And so that's why [clears throat] they like them ran horses, too, cuz the odd guy that doesn't ride them, there's a spectacular buck off video and people will talk about that more than that. Or like you covering it where it's like that clip on social media like it blew up. Exactly.

I didn't I didn't even win any. Like I said, I don't even think I won a check. And that was the video that the PRCA was posting like it was the highlight of the round. Yeah.

Isn't talk about ironic, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Like I said, I didn't [laughter] want to check.

They went a dollar and the PRCA is talking about Kade Bruner. I remember that post. It was like the thriller of the night. I think I saw it on YouTube or something.

Yeah. No, they post that video and it's like the thriller of the night on You're like, "Well, you guys didn't even score me." Well, [laughter] you're like using it. Yeah.

They're like, "Yeah, I know. It was It was like the highlight of the night." I already plum. Yeah.

That horse actually he went on like the next year. He had a decent year. We never took him back to the finals, but he was he was so big and so strong like he hurt himself bucking. Yeah.

And I think he ended up crippled. They said he'll never they'll never What happened was that Hawks or what? Yeah, I think them bigger horses, they break down fast. They can't take the semi like and I think the traveling is hardest what's hardest on them big horses because they just break them down fast.

You know, them horses are big, they're strong, they give it their all every time, especially them eliminators. Like they do their job every time and then they got to go get on a truck. And I just looking back through history of the last 10 years of bucking horses like them really big horses seem to last not near as long as the littleer horses that and some of them big horses a little wilder in the shoots especially of Calgary's they kind of get a little stingy in there and kind of beat themselves up and just like wild charities the same way. A horse was really hard on himself in the bucking shoots.

It was a great horse but he was hard to get out on and like he had terrible feet. his feet. They can never keep him sound because he'd kick and squat and like he'd get his feet stuck under the gate and just scrape them up and like they're hard on themselves. But they knew their job.

They're just tough to get out on. Totally. Well, I'm looking forward to it, dude. I'm going to be able to watch you every single day out there.

Yeah. Are you guys out there the whole time? I'll be out there the whole time shooting some podcasts and stuff and then I play the fifth I do the opener slot. Yeah.

At the Perf. Oh, heck yeah. Yeah. I you play one song or whatever.

You got to play one song. Well, and so that's We usually don't ever get to watch that. Really? Because they have us on our grand entry horses.

Oh yeah. We're in the alley and then they bring the stage down. [expletive] dude. I'll get you on stage with me, dude.

That'd be cool. You want it? I'd Yeah. Heck yeah, I would.

Dude, let's do it. Yeah, that'd be badass. I'm all about it. Uh yeah.

Hell yeah, dude. That'd be sick. Like I said, I don't I don't know what we're doing with the grand dude. I'll give you a guitar.

You [laughter] just give me that'd be sick. You have to give me a couple shaft up air guitar. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. [clears throat] I'll give you one of those u like the little blowup ones. Oh no. I [laughter] want a real one.

Come on. Come on. No. We'll get you a real one, dude.

I'm all about it. I think it's sick. No, I would too. Like I said, I don't know what we're doing with the grand entry as far as I've heard.

They told us his own foot. I'm like, how are we going to getund I think y'all should ride each other. Piggyback rides. I might get a little weird with the barrel racers, but you know, piggyback rides.

[laughter] I don't know what they're going to do realistically. Like I thought honestly I was like how are we going to do a grand entry down that tunnel with the bearback riders the only ones that don't. They're obviously loaded and like getting ready so there's 15 less. So I'm like how is 105 of us going to run down this tunnel like circle around the arena?

Like we don't really know what's going on like on foot. Yeah. I think I don't know. And we usually do it by state, you know, like they just go in alphabetical order, starting with Australia and then Canada and then oh, Alabama.

If there's any anybody from Alabama and they just go right down alphabetical order, that's how we'd run around there with the state flag. But I have no idea what they're going to do. So I don't either. Dude, if Well, if you guys aren't riding in there and you're just chilling, dude, I'm all about it.

We can get a We could get a few people up there. Yeah. Just like throw a party on stage. Get a couple Bronciders out there.

Nobody ever normally does that. Wait, did you see the other day at the Hondao they let Nickelback let Zeke on stage? I did see that. Yeah, he like sang or something, didn't he?

They gave him a mic. Oh, yeah. I mean, they had it pretty I could tell cuz I was front. I was videoing for Zeke.

Zeke and I were pretty good buddies and like I could hear Zeke sometimes. Can you sing at all? I mean, I try and sing. I would say I sing good, dude.

What if we got like a few guys? I just say we give everybody mics, man. Dude, that would be the best intro ever. Right.

I mean, that's the whole point is like, let's get a party going. Sometimes that opening thing gets a little too serious. Oh, they Yeah, it's pretty serious. Like, and everything's on this freaking tight schedule.

Well, for sure. No, I mean, in the sense of like, what are you going to get out there and just like play some like sad song or something? Like, this is freaking Yeah, we're about to [laughter] ride bearback horses. Like, what are Yeah.

Like, let's get it going. I agree. I agree. But the deal there in Phoenix, like I was saying, like Zeke, I could tell like he'd have that mic right in his mouth and like he would be screaming.

I could hear his voice with my ears but not coming through that microphone. Like they'd turn him up and down. Like I don't know if you can do that. Is that a thing you can do with them mics?

That had to have been turning him up and down cuz then like they'd get to a part where they thought maybe he couldn't mess it up and then you could hear him like through the speakers and then it would get to like maybe a pretty fast part. Yeah. And then all of a sudden all you can hear is Kid Rock. But I could hear Zeke like said I was standing stage side.

I could hear Zeke's voice but it's not coming through his mic. Really? He's just yelling. They just turn him up and down.

Well, because they're like I don't even know if they had like monitoring. That's the thing. Like he didn't. And so that's the other thing.

He was a touch behind. Like [laughter] just a touch. Well, everybody else, they're just they totally hosed him. Yeah.

No, everybody else had the earpieces. It's impossible. Well, I and I did an interview earlier that day because I'd won the first round out there and like when I spoke into that mic, like she would talk to me, but then when it kind of echoed with her, but then like she put the mic in my face and like I went to answer and there was an echo back. Yeah.

Like and obviously so those guys having the earpieces aren't getting the echo back, but Zeke was probably getting that echo back. So he was just a touch behind and that's when they really started turning him like up down. Yeah, he would catch up and then they'd like turn it up for like the good parts and then they'd turn him way back up. But it's like I mean come on.

If anybody like gave him a hard time on that type of stuff, dude. No. Like I give him credit for just getting up there and doing it. Oh, I would have that would have been like we were standing there and he was like I don't know.

You think I should? I'm like dude, who else gets a chance to go on stage with Nickelback? Yeah. Like that's kind of a once in a-lifetime deal.

Well, yeah, bro. Come on. And that's why I told him like name anybody else you've ever seen Nickelback let up on stage and just sing Rockstar with him. So like isn't it weird with moments like that if you could just zoom out on your life?

It's hard when you're just in it. Yes. And you like become critical of yourself or whatever. It's like if you could just zoom out and be like hold on when I'm 80 in a wheelchair.

Yeah. And none of this [expletive] matters anymore. I'll be like, or even in five years, like they got some pictures like to have a picture on stage with Nickelback with you singing. Mhm.

That is priceless. Yeah. I wish Yeah. It won't be quite like that, but uh I feel like it's still going to be pretty cool.

It'll be sick. I mean, they were at the Honda. We're going to be at the NFR. Yeah, I know.

Well, and then the song that they asked me to do is like off I just dropped a new record. It's called Kick Rocks. or the song's called Kick Rocks, but it's like freaking rodeo rock anthem, right? And uh it's like perfect.

Like literally, when we were in the studio, me and the engineer, I was like I was like, "Dude, playing this at the NFR would be So, you need to listen to it on your ride home." You will be like, "Oh my god, I'm going to have the lyrics pulled up and be learning it." Or you might hate it. I doubt it.

If you hate it, don't tell me. I doubt it. I won't fragile ego. Just say, "Hey, man.

I'm going to I'm going to die. I don't know if I want to get out there anymore. [laughter] Oh my god, dude. Brutal.

No, honestly, you would just do the normal thing and just ghost me. No, probably not. You know. Oh, you would be straight up.

This song sucks, bro. But I'm not going to tell you it sucks. I'm just be like, I think I'm busy on the fifth. [laughter] I'm going to have to go tape to go tape me, dude.

Don't freaking I'm gonna have to go tape my [clears throat] ankle when you're doing that intro. [laughter] Turns out got a lot of taping to do. Yeah. Uh I'm in for it, man.

No, I'm I am too. That'd be awesome. Yeah, dude. Uh and then we I think we were working on another thing for the bull fighters deal, like the Hoie afterparty.

Oh, yeah. I think we might do one of those maybe. And we don't usually make it out there just because they do them bull fights in the morning and then their parties kind of The after part is at like midnight. Yeah.

Well, but they kind of have like a little watch party like party. Yeah. for the rodeo and then the yeah the after part is at midnight but like I said I've been trying not to go out every night I try and stay because that was a tough week I always lose like 10 pounds in Vegas or getting sick or getting sick. Yeah.

Like dude I've been out there and got sick before and called the barrel racers. I'm like what kind of horse drugs you got? No. Yeah.

They'll have it. They're like take some SMZs. And I'm like what are those? They're like you know just take an SMZ every day.

And I'm like cool. Yeah. Go open up their tack room. your final [clears throat] like said get some SMZs.

Apparently, it's just like a I don't even know what it is, but it's like a It's not even as good as taking like a Zpack. Like, you'd be better off if you get a Zpack from the doctor, but like they say it still helps. I don't know. I took him that one year.

I did not like I didn't feel like I got better any faster being sick. No, just you know, just go to a normal doc, man. Yeah. I'm not very good at that.

Clearly, he's going to the vet to get x-rays for my leg. Yeah, I've been there for sure. Yeah, dude. Well, I'm freaking I'm rooting for you.

Hey, I appreciate it. So, next time I see you, we'll go on stage. Yes. We're going to email them.

We'll tell them. Yeah. No, email them. See what they say.

Yeah. All right. Sick. I'm about it.

I'm in. Well, good luck with everything. Hey, thank you. Thanks for having me on.

Yeah. Thanks for doing taking the time. This was fun. Drove all the way in from Idaho this morning.

Yeah. 25 hours, guys. All right. See y'all.

Thanks, guys. Every time They're popping the [music] gauge. Oh lord, no soul. That was just too damn rank.

Little buddy, better luck next season. Get a gold buckle and a couple good reasons. She might let you come back home. Oh, hell no.

Kick rocks ain't nothing [music] but a heathen. more money. But just as a wicked, she'll never let him come [music] back home. Kick rocks, cowboy.

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