Jorden Halvorsen

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purple eyes [Music] [Music] yeah so what all you were just saying before we started I think we're rolling right now but uh before we started you were saying that you were doing a bunch of editing yeah so when I started working for Dale like as I got more into the job I had to get new roles it's one of my roles now

really so you just had to learn how to do it or what I kind of did as a kid like not gonna lie like I was that weird horse girl growing up and we made videos of us riding our horses and I had actually had a YouTube channel like back in high school really yeah so like I was editing dang it was

like crazy it was not worth any like you could never monetize it because it was all like copyrighted songs that would have been in like 2010 yeah 2009 I was a freshman well I would have been copyrighted what do you mean because it was all like licensed music oh so you were just putting music behind it yeah like at crazy edits like

lots of Lights lots of yeah it was just it was all outlandish stuff just you and friends like riding or something yeah just anything and so I had kind of had like somewhat of an idea of how to edit I mean obviously I had to learn like a new style of editing you know like the jump cuts and you know that kind

of stuff but yeah so now I help with like those uh Rodeo Time episodes like usually it's either me or Donnie that are doing that and then making stuff for his like social media so like for Instagram Tick Tock YouTube you know we do all that kind of stuff so is that's something that like you so you were already interested in that

was that something that they presented to you like yeah even come yeah where are you from North Carolina North Carolina yeah no that wasn't I had no idea I was gonna ever do that like at all so I mean when they were like hey do you want to you know start branching out because I was working in the warehouse like you know

packing the you know shipments and like doing all that stuff anything that they needed done in the warehouse and then like as we got more help and like as you know we were we were kind of grow you know I've been there for two years now so like we've grown a lot since then they you know they presented me and they're like

hey do you have any interest in this and I was like yeah sure you know like I'm down to learn whatever you know so it's definitely good to have like a down for whatever kind of attitude out there it's like you know you never know what you're gonna be that's the way a lot of things like uh like even with what I

do it's kind of the same way where it's like it's a small business but it's such a bizarre small business right that like you just gotta roll with the punches yeah just get in where you fit in and just try to be like just a hustler try to figure out some and a lot of it's like trial and error yeah absolutely right

that's what so like I've been just editing the byproduct of what someone else has filmed okay so now I've just started picking up the camera learning how to focus them because we you know it's manual focus on those gh5 so like that's something that like I just have to do you know it's like one of those things like it's kind of you

can self-teach it like and like obviously I have Donnie and Dale like who have run those cameras for long enough that you know they can help you with it so it's like definitely like trial and error you know like you got to just get behind the camera and do it so now like I think we bucked two days ago not yesterday but

the day before and so I had the camera out there so I was like going around just literally just videoing the Bulls just trying to teach myself how to like focus and focus it faster that way if like anything but yeah it's just so now like I'm doing that and editing so like hopefully kind of comes all together where I'm doing all

of it you like it yeah I love it but it was crazy too because like another thing with like just going out there and trying something so like I had the camera out there it was the first time I was kind of messing around with the camera well I've been kind of wanting to try picking up like on the bucking horses because

like where I'm from like bucking horses like you don't ever see it so like that was kind of cool so like I've learned a lot about you know that uh rough stock event and so um Dale was like do you want to try picking up today and I was like yeah so like I had to hand the camera off and I jumped

on the horse and like was learning that and that's also kind of one of those things too like you kind of gotta expose yourself and put yourself out there to learn it no doubt and it was pretty scary so a lot of people would like hearing you talk about that and how action-packed that all would be and how fun all that would

be yeah I mean to it to get to the point that you're eating even getting to do any of that stuff though like you were saying you were just working in the warehouse yeah absolutely boxes well and like so I kind of got the unique experiences like when I first came there was during the Netflix show so like I came on during

Netflix like the first day there that you see on the Netflix show is legitimately my first time meeting those guys in person first day first day didn't they have you blurred out or something yeah so we filmed that so I came scandalous yeah so I came to work for Dale like during the Netflix show like based on our contracts and stuff like

that they wanted me to be revealed as Dale's new intern on the show we had no idea when the show was gonna come out because like they still had to edit it and then we also got a worldwide release on it which meant they were going to dub it over in all the other languages and it was going to be which takes

three months to do Post production I'm really dumb I'm sorry but explain that to me again so you guys had to so we had to wait for them to finish the Netflix show like they had we had to film it which took two months and then you have to wait for them to chop those episodes up okay well once they finish those

episodes and everything's done they um got a worldwide release which means it was in like 140 different countries but instead of just using subtitles on those they actually hired voice actors I didn't know that yeah which takes three months alone yeah just that part takes three months so like it took a whole year from start to finish to for it to come

I had no idea it was like that I knew that was a big deal but that seems like a whole other level right yeah I think I mean I had the voice actor my Native American voice actor reached out to me on Instagram and like was telling me how she played my voice and how cool she thought it was and I was

like dang that's crazy is there a reason that she was a Native American or well because that's just what she spoke oh it was yeah once again so it was the language yeah well do you know what one it was specifically no we listened to like it in French and Spanish and stuff like that yeah are there a bunch of words that

I would have to think there's a bunch of words that don't translate yeah no like I would figure there's a ton yeah I think we watched it in French and like Carl Wayne gets out and like they show like John it says it says like uh non-carl Wayne or something like that it was just funny I don't even know I wonder what

some of the words are that there's probably so many just jargon like ranchy kind of words yeah there's no way they have a translation for it no I don't know I have no idea so is there still subtitles too I guess yeah we have I mean we had the English subtitles just because we kind of wanted to know what yeah but yeah

it was all what we were saying it was the subtitle so I don't know so that girl reached out to you the one that did it yeah she reached out to me on uh Instagram and was like dming me about it and I was like dang that's pretty cool that's super dope yeah because she lived in the states she was just I

guess it was more I guess it's more Latin American oh you're in trouble now yeah whatever you know what I was trying to say people since so yeah she's probably just speaking Spanish Maybe um yeah maybe Portuguese oh Brazilian yeah but like they can but a lot of those people that are hired to do that know more than one language that is

probably also accurate yeah I can't imagine yeah I barely know English I mean either I get my words messed up so but you worked uh like did you start in the warehouse when the show started or no so like we filmed the show like and then off on my off days I was working in the warehouse so like the way the Netflix

show worked is like they were Union which means they can only work certain hours certain number of days in a row so if we like work through a weekend they could only work five days in a row so like that meant Monday and Tuesday were off days so I was in the warehouse packing t-shirts and doing whatever you know I mean and

not all the time that's how that worked out but yeah so then we filmed the Netflix show and as soon as the Netflix show was over that's when I was in the warehouse full time I mean I feed and stuff in the mornings I mean I did that the whole time like still do it um but yeah so started off in the

warehouse and then as like we need more help or we slowed down you know that's when they kind of the editing job kind of came up how did you originally get connected so back in I guess I could go through the whole story of it because it was kind of so back in March of 2020 um I was involved in a really

bad bore at an accident um right when the pandemic started so like I got hurt the day that the shutdowns kind of started happening well I had a grade five liver laceration almost lost my life flatlined was in the hospital for two weeks well that when I woke up from my coma it was like covet had taken completely taken over so like

you know went into my coma world's open wake up for my coma world shut down were you just practicing or were you at I was in an event in Tennessee yeah so after Co you know after having that injury and like making it through that like I obviously had to quit my job that I had working out a horse barn and um

I was got to the point where like I could kind of work so I was doing I was door dashing because I lived 30 minutes from a high school or a college campus were you in Tennessee where were you at are you still in North Carolina I lived in North Carolina I had drove to Tennessee for a rodeo when I got hurt

so uh I didn't really do a whole lot like I wasn't doing anything because I was you know coming back from an injury totally high-risk covid so also just riding my horse around for hours a day and then door dashing at night while I had listened to one of his podcasts was listening to One of Dale's podcast and he had talked about

you know looking for a new intern and I was like not doing anything right now I'm not really making any money or anything like that and so like I sat on it for a week I was like do I apply do I not apply and you know the intern process is like still the same like you still make a video you know

one to two minutes and you send it into the rodeo time Instagram and so like on the last day on like it was like a Friday I was hauling my Bulls because I had bought bucking bulls I was hauling them to a rodeo and I was like you know what I'm just gonna do it like I'm just gonna send an intern video

in like what's the worst that's gonna happen I don't get it and I just keep doing what I'm doing now sure and so like I guess they said that I had sent it in like at the last second they said they were literally getting ready to quit taking people and so um that just kind of started the process of we did some

Zoom calls because like it was going to be for the Netflix show so like they had to see me like personality wise I guess and so we started that process and like honestly the first time that they had said something about a Netflix show I kind of just rolled it off my back I was like that's not why I want to go

like I want to go because the cattle industry in North Carolina is really small and cow calf operations was something I wanted to learn like it was something that had kind of interest me that and I was driving out to Texas a bunch for bull ridings so it kind of only made sense that I was going to eventually end up in Texas

and so I just applied to be an intern and got it so you have some buck in stock of your own though well I've about sold everything but one bull so actually just sent him down to get bucked at the Cowboy Church oh really is this something your family was into or nope you just started doing it yup my family did nothing

with Rodeo really they didn't have anything really with horses and they didn't have anything with Rodeo so I didn't come from like an equestrian like they didn't really know what the hell they were doing they just kind of you know they just kind of did whatever it's hard yeah well because like when I was a kid I had this best friend and

she wanted to do figure skating lessons well obviously I had to do that so like I started figure skating well then she wanted to do horses and I was like well obviously I gotta do horses too you know like you're a kid and so like I was doing both figure skating and horseback riding lessons and I was kind of getting to the

point and both of them was like in figure skating I was getting ready to go to Freestyle which would push you to try to be going to the Olympics and then in horses I was getting to the point where like it was like horse showing was about to start and both of those are very expensive and so like my parents were like

all right you're gonna have to pick one I knew I'm like eight years old nine years old and so I picked horses and my parents knew nothing about it so was it purely just I mean you were like eight or nine did you just do it sort of based off of you thought you liked horses more uh no I think like I

was pretty hooked on horses pretty fast like it was pretty much like the I just kind of kept doing the figure skating stuff because that's what my best friend had she had stuck with and I had stuck kind of and we were both kind of doing both for a while but I knew I liked horses way more like instantly it was pretty

like it was pretty quick and so then like my parents like didn't know anything about horses and we lived like in a subdivision or like in a cul-de-sac well there was one house on the whole cul-de-sac that had like 13 acres a horse barn and some pastures well as soon as that puppy went up for sale they bought it really yeah so

like they had no idea what they were doing we bought like this old horror the first horse we bought was like this old Tennessee Walking Horse like old like had cancer like was losing her mind she had cushions like she was not she was not doing well yeah well then my parents bought me my first Pony when I was nine well they

didn't know what they were doing and I was taking these horseback riding lessons so they brought bought me an unbroke two-year-old Pony I was nine years old and I had them at my house so they were like they're like well if you want to ride them you're just going to figure it out right so I broke my first Pony when I was

nine like I was still going and taking horseback riding lessons but like yeah so like I had that pony so they probably had like a lesson horse for you at the yeah at the place I was because I wrote English well did they not like tell your parents anything oh no they did I mean my trainer went with me to find this

Pony why okay but he was gentle like the day we saw him he was gentle like I rode him around bareback in a halter oh okay like I sat on him they held on to him well he turned into a devil after right because he's a pony like that's what ponies do like it's kind of what they say for and so yeah

so they were like oh if you want to ride them you're just going to figure it out right and I was like yeah so in a lot of ways it was probably the best way to learn oh yeah I mean he and he turned out to be a phenomenal Pony really yeah because I was you know Relentless like I mean if I

wasn't riding him he was gonna be my best friend I tied him to my swing set I'd tied him to my trampoline like take him on picnics like it didn't matter like he was I mean that was my best friend so that's great yeah so like they had you were just hooked yeah all of it like it didn't matter and so like

then I started horse showing and I did that for a long time what kind of showing Hunter jumper okay that's what I grew up doing wow you're fancy yeah I guess nobody really liked me no like they liked me but they didn't because I knew I didn't take it seriously oh okay because like that kind of horse showing is also really expensive

it's so expensive for sure well I was broke like we didn't have that kind of money like I can afford a 50 000 show horse like yeah just the outfits you're like well I guess that's more like pleasure versus no it's still it's still bad and so you know like I wanted the horse show well I also didn't have the money to

Horse Show and my parents were going through divorce and so like what I did was I was riding naughty horses and ponies for trainers like people that had just clients that had awful that needed miles in the show ring but didn't necessarily want to do it because they were too worried about looking bad because their horses probably gonna take off bucket well

I didn't care sure I just wanted to be there oh so like how old were you at that time probably this was like probably between the ages of 14 to 17. yeah like right before I started indestructible yeah like I would write anything like it didn't and I wrote a lot of ponies just because of my size yeah so I mean I

was just I just wanted to Horse Show like I didn't care like I just was happy to be there and you know when you do that for someone else they have to they pay for your horse showing and like you're also not making any money because you want to keep your amateur status so that really sucks so you know like you're just

they'll feed you and get you to the horse show but I did that up until I was like right at 17 I was trying to qualify that pony that I had grown up riding for Pony finals you know like just kind of wanted to do it one time you know it's a big deal in the hunter jumper worlds to go to Pony

finals you can only do it up until you're 18. so I was trying to qualify this Pony for Pony finals and I was riding for this trainer that had a lot of really naughty horses and ponies so like I was getting horse show a lot and she started dating a bull rider and oh yeah and so that's where that and then like

she that's who got me started riding bulls was actually my hunter jumper trainer who would have thought but well I'd always heard that did he ride jumpers no because like some of those dudes I think do don't they yeah they say it's the best way to practice like jumping a horse bareback which worked out for me because I didn't I was too

lazy as a kid to tack up why is that is it like driving your hips forward yeah it's kind of like you kind of dis you know discontent disconnect at the hips and kind of like then you set your hips when they kind of kick over it's kind of the same motion Okay but well then I guess you got to get your

chest out over it yeah you kind of keep everything centered and square and I don't know it helped me yeah I mean did it feel like it translated quite a bit yeah I think I think that's why I picked it up as fast as I did yeah because like honestly when I first started riding bulls like I didn't even know that girls

aren't Red Bulls because those people were just so cool about it like they just didn't care so the dude that was the boyfriend he didn't think twice about it no and like it kind of started off like she had kind of said do you want to ride a bull and I was like why would we do that like but and then you

know I was like why would we do that and she's like well how many people have you know don't ride a bull and I was like well just your boyfriend I guess you know she was like well we can at least do it one time and Mark it off our bucket list and I was like she wanted to do it too yeah

we all did it like all the girls that wrote up that Barn did it one time you know like we there was like three or four of us that went out there one day and just did it you know one time just to say we did it and I fell off really fast I was like man I know I can stay on

longer than that so we just I just I didn't like jump head first into it because I was still trying to qualify that pony for Pony finals and then once I qualified him and I realized I wasn't gonna have the money to be able to actually go to the show because it's all the way in Kentucky that was like well I guess

I'm just gonna start running Bulls then because my horse showing career is over you were like 18 17 17 18 17 when I got on my first one okay then you just like just kind of did it like I just like did you know some people did you go to that guy or yeah so that place that we had gone and gotten

on that practice pool does a weekly practice pendants in Hope Mills North Carolina they still do it so it's every Sunday and so you know those people were just kind of really supportive of it and that you know they didn't they were like if you want to get on like get on you know we're not gonna tell you no and so like

I just kept going back every Sunday and then just kind of slowly was trying to figure it out was getting you know getting the starts of my first injuries and so like I just kept going and then I found you know that there was more that I was gonna have to do like outside of the Arena like I couldn't just show up

on Sundays and expect to get better and so I started going to bull riding schools you know got a drop Barrel got a stationary Barrel was riding my pony bear back because I still I think I still owned him at that point I've leased him at least amount a lot because he was just he ended up really good after yeah from when

I was nine there's a bunch of money in those ponies now right yeah oh yeah I made a lot of money off of him I actually just sold him oh I owned him for 18 years and I just sold him yeah I mean congrats I think it was bittersweet it was like it kind of sucked because I was like well I don't

technically own him anymore but like at the same time like he's also older and so like he needs more maintenance like Hawk injections stifle injections like the whole nine yards yeah and so I was like well these people are going to give him a better life I mean at least I'm out all the way up until then so like I probably made

thirty thousand dollars just off a leasing him yeah without spending any money on him was this the same Pony that when I was nine yeah so like not only did I get to experience all those things as a kid and like got to have this Pony but like I trained him made money off of him and then now he's teaching other little

kids so that's awesome yeah he's pretty sweet like I did a lot like it's crazy how much stuff I did with him like I've wrote him Western I've pushed cows on him I've bucked him like flanked him and he would sit there and turn back like a bull really yeah I mean I did it all we took him he was he's just

a little freaking stuff we took him to be auditioned for a ballet because I needed a pony for it like I've done a lot of just random stuff oh and he's like bomb proof oh absolutely yeah like there is some things that would set him off that I wouldn't like he was scared of like I don't know back when selfie sticks were

like a big deal my dad had one and I like are they not a thing I guess I've noticed that yeah they're not a thing I always thought they were weird yeah I mean I did too I just took it and was like realized my honey was scared of it so I sat on him and kind of pulled him back and like

showed it in his face and he would just sit there and spin the other direction I was like all right well that's cool that's the only thing I used it for yeah but desensitizing yeah I mean he was he was a pretty cool pony I actually just posted some of those videos of me bucking him the other day on Tick Tock really

yeah people were like why would you flake him oh gosh there you go yeah and I was like man this Pony loves his life I promise you I could say whoa and he would stop bucking like yeah isn't that wild yeah like because everyone was like well how do you flank him and get on him and I would sit there and I

would be on the ground I would flank him and I'd just keep telling him I was just like whoa Casey and I would jump up on him I'd get situated and I'd be like all right Casey go like would you do it you just did it like in the arena or did you do yourself you would just flank him and then hot

and then when you hopped on he would just start bucking well only when I said go sometimes he would do it before that but like not yeah he was good like he was I taught him a bunch of tricks like he was cool like he could rear on command he could bow he could he could like if you know how like you

can pretend Tanner like if he was next to you and you cannered he'd can it right there next to you like he was cool like he's a cool pony yeah that's why it was kind of like Bittersweet so I was like man now he's never going to retire with me but the place that he's at is I sold him on a Buy-Back

contract so if they ever decide to sell him I get first ride of refusal for one dollar so like they're probably never gonna sell them because I'm obviously gonna buy him back for a dollar yeah no doubt worth way more than that yeah but I mean but that's perfect for like when they like really retire him yeah you know for sure I

mean I think they just love him so much he and he's got a sweet personality like he's kind of in your pocket like I mean he's got his Pony attitude sometimes but like he's just he's so solid yeah well I mean humans you can meet the most chill human in the world and like they're gonna have their moments yeah everyone you know

it's part of being yeah it's a name being alive I think people forget that about horses sometimes yeah they just want to be machines yeah and it's like there's a brain in there you know oh for sure like they just they want to run them into the ground and yeah don't expect them to crack and it's like well we did that to

you probably you would have probably broke down a lot sooner yeah or I guess you can same way with a human as you could probably beat it down so much that it like really doesn't have any sort of Personality anymore has no real heart yeah oh yeah and there's some horses like that too yeah you just look at them and they're just

you can tell yeah deadheads I hate a horse like I worked at a ranch in Wyoming I was a Wrangler out there one summer and I was um it was kind of it was something they wanted me to do but they were trying to get these horses ready for the you know to be used as Trail horses and I had kind of

fallen in love with this horse and but they wanted me to he had a personality and they wanted me to beat it out of him yeah they wanted me to you know they were like he cannot be like this I was like then don't use it because I freaking love this yeah and I was I wouldn't do it I would not do

it uh that's a funny term up north Wranglers yeah that's what the only time I've ever heard that I know the only time I've ever heard that is up north yeah it was in it was a Like a Dude Ranch in Wyoming all they did was have horses and the people would come out there and you would just guide trail rides take

care of the horses yeah so is Wrangler like I mean is it a little bit more horse specific I have I guess I don't know I was only there for one summer I hated it was too cold for me even in the summer yeah well yeah so I got hurt really bad out there in a car wreck so good grief yeah how

old were you when that one happened I was in 2014 so that's when you were younger yeah so it was the year after I graduated high school okay 19. yeah I thought I was just gonna be out there for the summer but so you did that for the summer but you would have been already riding bulls at that point yeah so I

was riding bulls but the problem was is when I went to go working the whole reason why I was okay with going and work in Wyoming was because I had a broken jaw from riding bulls so I was gonna take the summer off I was gonna take a couple months off anyway and then I got in the car wreck while I had

a broken jaw and I broke my collarbone my scapula and my humerus Florida Mercy yeah were you when you broke your jaw were you wearing a helmet really oh yeah you took one then yeah I think that was that was the first time I broke it so the first time I broke it I took a horn to the side of the face

and the way those helmet I was wearing just a hockey helmet but it like kept the top part of my head together and it took my jaw and just shifted it so it just it broke it in the joint and it was pretty it was pretty rough had to I mean it knocked you out right no I got up oh that sucks

I stood out I stood up I walked out to the Lily Arena picked up my bull rope walked all the way back and I was like hey I think I uh dislocated my jaw they're like dislocated your jaws like yeah I don't think it's broken I just think I dislocated it and they're like all right like so what are you gonna do

I was like oh I'm just gonna drive to that hospital that's right by my house and just have them set it back they're like you're crazy and I was like hey man I'll be all right so is it were you already off or were you kind of falling down on the inside or something the bull jerked me down okay yeah I have

the video of it somewhere but he jerked me down and like those people were like you're crazy like you're gonna drive yourself to the hospital I was like yeah I'm just gonna go I had there was a hospital like five minutes from my house and I was like well I'll just go to that one like did you yeah so I drove 40

minutes to that hospital yeah because I was like I just had my I was just like hey Mom can you just meet me there and she cussed me out the whole time I was like bro because she hated me riding bulls I bet and so like I got to the hospital and she like tried to come in the back with me this

time and I was like no I don't want her because I was over 18 so I was like no I don't want you back there was that like one of the first bad wrecks no you'd had a few before then Yeah I broke my wrist and had to get a plate and screws put in like pretty early on yeah because like I

so I had started riding bulls and I had I think I got on my first one right-handed and then I got on I started riding with my left hand are you right-handed yeah right hand dominant but I started so then I went and was riding with my left hand and I fractured my left wrist not bad like didn't even need a cast

but you know obviously you can't hold on to a bull and I was like whoa I'm really new at this so like I'm just gonna switch hands I got on three Bulls had no idea what I was doing at this point and this bull was just so strong he snapped my wrist leaving the buck and shoot and had to get a plate

and screws I was like all right well I'm just gonna go back to riding left-handed so that's why she was not happy because I was just that was in December of 2013 and I broke my jaw in May of 2014. yeah that like within six months almost yeah like I'd barely stopped riding bulls like after I broke my wrist like I kind

of went rabbit because I switched hands I was like well let's go make my Freon now yeah I'll be all right you know so at that point mama was like pretty pissed oh yeah she hated it you were probably still on their insurance right yeah I was having an insurance up until like last year on my dad's and you know turned 26.

last year so they're like kick you off yeah good luck with that yeah so that's been a fun Loop yeah I bet uh yeah rodeo and trying to get any sort of insurance is like almost impossible yeah it's pretty tough I haven't used mine yet knock on wood that I don't have to use anytime soon yeah you won't I've been pretty lucky

this year it's been good or maybe yeah you believe in luck um I believe in hard work and it depends on what kind of luck you're talking about okay how many different types of luck are there well like I don't feel like I have luck as far as like if I keep my body in shape like okay and I don't get injured

that's not luck that's from hard work and dedication to keeping myself in the best shape I can but look like I'm not gonna go walk under a ladder or let a black cat run in front of me without thinking about it oh so you're like superstitious yeah but that's like kind of bad luck too like that gives you bad luck right bad

juju yeah so you do believe in luck yes hmm so like Destiny right like having like a Destiny or like something that's already like do you feel like you can change it or do you feel like it's already pretty much mapped out for you um I don't know I was kind of thinking not like so much Destiny I guess but like I

feel like I feel like you can change it because I feel like there's always different doors that can be opened and depending on how you which door you open because like I was kind of thinking about it in the sense of like you know going after something that you really believe in versus if you have everything handed in front of you could

still miss opportunities but like you could change your destiny if you decided to put more work into it even though it's right there in front of you given to you does that make sense that makes total sense so I feel like you can change it in a sense yeah in some ways in some ways yeah not always it's kind of one of

those tricky things like very tricky because you can look at it I don't know you can look at it a bunch of different ways yeah you can look at it a lot of different ways uh but yeah I mean if you get on a bowl you're probably gonna get hurt actually it's not it's not about if you're gonna get hurt it's about

when it's not bad no doubt no doubt so like I don't know but I feel like you can change like you can mitigate risks yeah maybe put the odds in your favor right sure but that's not always going to you know change the outcome yeah you never know exactly so Mama hated it what about Dad but they had separated yeah they got

divorced when I was in seventh grade yeah I'm sorry so were you still kind of talking to him or yeah um we had kind of gone through some pretty rough stuff through um that part of my childhood so like it was it was pretty dark it was a pretty dark time and so before I'd really once I found that I kind of

just I didn't really pay attention to anything like oh so that's like where you put most of your every angst or anything like everything because I was thinking about the other day and I was like man what have I done for like someone asked me they're like what have you done for the last 10 years and I was like because like my

high school reunions coming up they're like what have you done for that last 10 years and I was like rodeoed uh yeah like that's it like I've literally put everything into rodeo and ever since like I found it and like it was the same way with horses like I didn't really have like a social life or like go out and do a

bunch of stuff like play sports or anything like after I found that so like I haven't done anything uh I don't know if you're intending to say it that way but it sounds like you're like you wish you've done some other things as well I mean maybe like maybe like some like I don't regret any of it absolutely not like I don't

regret any of it and I definitely don't think I would have been where I'm at today had I not been as dedicated and focused to it but like also at the end of the time like at the end of the day like I feel like there was definitely some stuff I missed out on like I never went to college like I never

did that kind of stuff whereas like I have buddies that went in college went to college and you know I kind of missed out on some of those experiences but I also don't know that I would have enjoyed that because I enjoyed Rodeo so much yeah The Grass Is Always Greener yeah it's kind of one of those things like I don't I

absolutely don't regret it I've loved every minute of it but like it's also like you kind of think about it's like whoa you know like all your friends are talking about all these like things that they've gone and done it's like well and I must have really missed out on doing that because I was just so focused on this other thing but

time it's like it's just so hard to sounds like you might have already hit the point where you start like realizing like where you spend your time and like how important that really is but I don't really know when I would have hit that it's definitely hit me recently yeah where it's just like my goodness there's not that much time yeah like

even thinking about like my parents uh it's a little bit morbid but I think it's a pretty healthy like thought exercise but like if your parents are 60 years old you know I don't know the exact national average but like typically people probably live to like 75 or 80 or something like that it's like if you break that down into like Christmases

like you only have like 15 or 20 more Christmases with your parents dang you know uh and then you can like apply that to a bunch of different stuff so now it's like you know it happens where people call you on the phone and you might I'll call him tomorrow or something yeah but when you start breaking it down into like well

how many more opportunities would I really have yeah do you know to talk to him I don't know it's so weird like in my early 20s I it was just you just didn't even think about it you're just letting it rip yeah just do whatever and hang out yeah I mean I was kind of talking about that because like you know like

I'm at I'm getting to the age of like 27 you know like that's young like you're still young I haven't thought about having kids right I'm 27 you know yeah and so like you don't have like I've got maybe a 10-year window left you know maybe more because like water medicine but like you don't think about that kind of like all of

my friends and most of my friends in high school are Don married have kids have a family and I'm over here like Rodeo like let's go you know like just kind of living like I was you know like in my early 20s you know like 21 and so like it's just kind of like a crazy thought like you know that time what

you're talking about like well you don't really have that much time left yeah and then you dedicate so much to one thing it's great it just every year that you dedicate more and more time it's even harder to give it up yeah absolutely because like I don't I mean I haven't even last year was like the first year I ever thought about

quitting running Bulls and it wasn't having to do with anything other than I had a knee injury another knee injury that's the only reason why I thought about quitting not because of time not because of where I wanted to see myself but literally just because like I had a knee injury and really like why is that my priority like why I wasn't

like you know wanting to start a family or prior like why hasn't that been a PR why is it just because my doctor told me I might not be able to ride Bulls again because I have a really screwed up knee which worked out because are you saying that you get a little bit concerned because like your uh you feel like sometimes

your priorities might not be where they should be yeah as an adult like okay yeah okay like sort of feel like an oddball sometimes yeah absolutely I mean not that many people Rodeo no in general nature of rodeo probably the same thing with like musicians like it's so small it's so Niche that like and then the problems in like the I guess

not really problems but like maybe more most of it yours is a very physical yeah physically demanding physical struggle yeah the what I do mostly is more of like an emotional yeah like ups and downs time I feel like a lot of time but then that goes into the emotional part yeah and there's some just big ups and downs and swings you

know yeah I think that's why a lot of guys start getting into drugs and drinking a lot because you're just trying to numb but it's emotional as opposed to well a lot of the rodeo guys do because they're in physical pain yeah absolutely but yeah I see what you're saying I mean it sounds like at some point you might want to do

like the more traditional route it sounds pretty lonely at times especially on top of it you're a female yeah I mean like there's just not a lot and like I think that's also what I've been struggling with too is like when I was younger like I would just enter like open bull ridings and like now I'm getting older my body's more broke

down and stuff like that and like we do have women's borons but they're just not it's not enough to make a career out of it like I couldn't just do that on the weekends like I can't make a full-time like salary just doing that and so like it's kind of like I and I guess that's probably where a lot of these thoughts

have actually come from in the last two years is like the fact that there's just it is lonely because there's not that many women's borons and it's like what are you really doing this for like because you don't have anything to compete for you don't have girls to really ride against all the time and so it's like is it even kind of

worth it I love it though so like I also just like it I that's also where I struggle because like after I had my knee injury I kind of told my em my doctor so I went to Tandy Freeman and he was like when he first looked at my knee he for he originally said I think I can give you a stable

knee for the rest of your life well that I think that's when everything got put into perspective because I was like dude I have a whole lot of life left to live like I'm 27 and he's telling me I'm gonna need a knee replacement at 35. I know it's like it's such a big commitment physically and yeah so like serious ramifications I

think that's why I'm really kind of I really confuse myself with all the thoughts of it all because like part of me is like no I'm fine I'm doing just what I've been called to do and then other parts of me are like well no I really should think about having kids in the near future but that's not like that might not

be my you know that might not be for me I have no idea I want it to be you know like but it once he said that and he was like I think I can give you a stable knee for the rest of your life it's kind of like really screwed up my head it's made everything super foggy so that's probably why

not anything I say doesn't make any sense no you're making 10 cents well and I think the fact that you just come in circles well but everybody does yeah that's like part of the whole thing like everybody's just typically relatively con confused with their own life yeah you're just bouncing around for a bunch of different things like what do I need to

do how do I like be happy whatever that means how do I find Joy it's like a catch-22 like on a lot of stuff like you feel one way but then you explain to another one you're like wow I feel like that would be fine you know like I feel that way too and so I mean it's just there's just so many

different things that you can think about that like kind of go opposite but then also kind of go in the same like you're like no actually you're right like I do kind of think that way you know yeah so do the physical ramifications of doing it like later on down the road does that scare me or bother me yeah no interesting not

really like I don't know I feel I mean I feel like I'm pretty tough I would say yeah clearly but I don't know if I'm gonna enjoy waking up feeling like crap every day yeah but it hasn't never really scared me like coming back from like injuries have always kind of been difficult but thinking about like how those injuries are gonna affect

me later on haven't hasn't really bothered me I guess maybe that's just because like I'm blinded by the love of it you know uh does death scare you no I died it was yeah and it when I when that happened I realized where I was going like I know that I'm gonna go to heaven because I've seen it I've seen God standing

there before me and so ever since then like it hasn't scared me I did it once so like when I had that liver accident um they were doing my CT scans and my blood pressure had dropped really low like so much that the cuff couldn't pick it up anymore and two nurses had come in and they were starting to stick this needle

in my wrist trying to find my artery to keep track of my blood pressure and they couldn't find it because it was just I was internally bleeding to death and you know I just kind of told them I was like man I just like if y'all just quit because they were trying they kept trying to do it and you were still like

awake yeah I was fine I just I was telling them that I was okay like I was like I don't know why you're all freaking out really yeah and your blood pressure was that low but you didn't like pass out is that weird I have no idea maybe I mean maybe anyway so I don't know so then like by the time I

said that a surgeon had walked in holding two bags of blood and was like y'all gotta stop we gotta take her back to the or right now yeah and so like they like rushed me back like they had to handcuff me to the bed because I didn't have time to knock me out or anything like I was coughed and so like when

they took me back they didn't have time to knock me out and so I physically remember and seeing them cut my stomach open so I have a scar down my whole stomach yeah um and like sticking their hands in to they had to put they took all my organs out and put them on the table which is kind of crazy to think

about but anyway when that happened everything went like super white and bright and like I remember I had no emotion I wasn't happy sad I didn't feel any pain I literally felt nothing and off in the distance I could see a figure and all I remember saying was I'm not ready I'm not ready and I woke up from my coma so like

you were in a coma they a medically induced coma okay so this was like three days later but that's as long as that I felt like Vision felt like it yeah like pretty quick pretty like just like that like I remember seeing them put my hands in it being bright white and I said I wasn't ready I'm not ready and I woke

up like that's all it felt like yeah and so like it turned out I had been out for three days because how weird it was three days yeah you know what I mean yeah so like um I don't know it was and so like after that had happened and they told me that I had flatlined on the table and stuff like that

and like which kind of went and validated what I'd seen you know I was like you know death isn't scary like I've been there like you know like when you have that confidence and the fact that you know where you're going and like you're it made my faith stronger for sure so you already had belief in some sort of like higher power

okay yeah so like you know and like I just remember like I remember feeling that like I felt like that if I did not I felt like if that was a sign for me to quit riding bulls he wouldn't have given me that fire and passion to want to come back and come back stronger why do you think he said I'm not

ready I have no idea I don't know why I would say that either because it's like what I don't I have no idea why I would say that because it's like well you know if you're going to heaven you know like that ends all you know suffering there's no more pain there's no nothing like why would I but I really believe it's

because maybe it was Destiny maybe we can go back to that you know like I just felt like he had a bigger purpose for me and he proved that because that because you know like six months later I was filming a show for Netflix talking about my board you know like kind of made it all worth it yeah were you so like

I mean I mean I hate to assume but I would assume that like religiously you would like identify as a Christian yeah is that probably yeah so like what exactly is like have you been a Christian your whole life yeah so um I grew up going to the Methodist church and then um have kind of bounced back and forth between Methodist Baptist

kind of more non-denominational I guess you would say now just you know reading the Bible and you know praying every day yeah I don't go to church as often as I should you know but that's just you know I don't think that defines your whether you're gonna go to heaven or not yeah are you like are you pretty open about like your

Christian faith yeah absolutely okay yeah that's pretty dope that's pretty rare yeah we I mean therefore you know we have Bible studies at work before that you know we'll have 6 30 a.m Bible studies at the warehouse before we start our days and stuff like that so um they'll also does a bible study on YouTube so oh I didn't know that it

is a bible study on YouTube yeah so it's unlisted so you have to text his phone number to get the link and he sends it out it puts it puts you in a group message oh cool he sends out a link every week because he's just kind of lead it I guess yeah so like he does it you know he comes up

with different um we go through different books and I mean it's fun I love it yeah we haven't done one in a while though I think it's probably because it's getting to that be that time of the year where it's really busy for us yeah just with uh like with what in particular well you know like the holidays are coming up so

people were starting we're having more orders yeah we just we've already weaned some of our cows but our calves but we're gonna have to we've been having to go over there and check them a bunch we've been teaching the new guys we got three new interns so we've been teaching them how to drag calves and thank them and stuff like that so

you know that side's busy and then we've got the NFR coming up we got some booths coming up like in Indianapolis for FFA Nationals and yeah just be in that time of the year for sure and for sure so did your faith end up playing a pretty big role in like some of these bigger injuries that you that you had like was

there anything in particular well I know you were alluding to the idea that it solidified your faith yeah so I guess unpack that a little bit how did it solidify it I mean just the fact that like I don't you know God has a plan for everyone he it like he gives he is he guides you into where you're supposed to be

and I felt like you know when I said I wasn't ready you know that was just him telling me I've got bigger plans for you like you're not right you're purpose here on Earth isn't fulfilled and like you know at the same time like also like I realized that too like he kind of put that thought in my head that like I

also wasn't ready because you know why would I why would I just not want to go home you know like take away all that suffering so you know and then like coming back from that you know my mom obviously was having a huge fit yeah and like when I was first in the hospital like the first things I was saying was I'm

not gonna write Bulls anymore but then like you know I was also like barely could talk because I was on a ventilator so like I was like I don't think that was really fair I was sedated so then like as I was sitting in that hospital room for two weeks I kind of like everyone kept asking me and they're like do you

think you'll ride Bulls again I was like I was like I'm not gonna say yes and I'm not gonna say no I said I feel like right now if I told you I was to never get on a bull again we'd both know I'm lying and so I just don't think that God would give me that fire I mean and it came

back strong I didn't realize it but like I was not scared to get back on bullets you know you would think that would be something that would scare you but like just the fact that he gave me just like this fire and this passion to want to get back after it told me that I had a purpose and I had a reason

why I was here to do it and he I mean and he guided me back into it yeah that's interesting what is like what's being a Christian like how do you what is that just spreading your faith you know like just you know don't deny him never you know don't deny him especially in front of people that don't believe but um just

giving it him your best kind of I wouldn't say like following you don't have to follow rules like we're humans we make mistakes but I think just living to the best example for him you can you know based off everything that the Bible says hmm treat your you know your neighbors well yeah treat your enemies better pretty much yeah have you explored

a lot of other like religions no I haven't thought about it you know I've really like just being a Christian my whole life you know like I went to actually private school up until I was in seventh grade yeah me too yeah when my parents got divorced obviously we couldn't afford it anymore but um just pretty basic generic like I don't you

know I know that they're you know the different religions out there it's kind of I'm just kind of basic religious that's a lot of times like an easier route to go I made the big the big circle around it yeah like explored everything and then you came back yeah I just I mean I like to live pretty simple like I feel like

sometimes like especially like going into the church like some like it's just hard because like there's just so many I hate to say it but there's like people that you know put on two different faces and I would just no doubt I would just rather be myself you know be true to me and be true to him you know so like that's

why I also like church isn't the worst thing it's not also not the best thing like you just got to do what makes you happy what how you feel like you need to live best for him yeah there I was one of those people for sure I can talk the talk uh my actions typically did not line up with what I was

saying yeah you know what I mean yeah for most of my life so I was pretty uh yeah it wasn't good but yeah I mean at some point I think different people at different points in their life if they're willing to like submit to some degree I think the Lord will try to grab a hold of them uh yeah and it doesn't

it doesn't matter when you accept Christ either like people can live a very sinful terrible life and if they accept you know their lord and savior five minutes before they die they're gonna go to heaven you know so a lot of people have a hard time with that which I understand you know they get mad about it yeah I feel like that's

not fair well it's not fair that he died for our sins so yeah it's probably putting you know because you always have like the objection like well what about the guy that you know has murdered a bunch of people and I mean it's a legitimate objection I'm not trying to say it like it's not a big deal but like what about the

person that's just perpetrated all like Hitler right yeah so like what if Hitler on his dying Last Breath You know you know ask Jesus to forgive him of all of his sins uh and a lot of people can't grasp it yeah which ultimately means that who we take the place of God because like we're the ones that are deciding who gets the

Forgiveness they're judging yeah exactly yeah you know it's kind of one of those things I feel like you can avoid people on Earth you can avoid people there if you don't if you don't want to be around them don't be around them you say avoid people up there yeah [Music] funny I mean it's true like you probably won't even know though like

it probably doesn't matter yeah that's funny that's really funny you're probably gonna forget yeah like we're still it's a clean slate yeah that's very funny I would like to think in heaven we don't hold grudges right that is I feel like it would make it better it's like bro I'm still not sure about that yeah but you also kind of started a

clean Slate so you probably aren't going to remember yeah it's also kind of like now that I'm saying that out loud like you know what does that mean like what does that mean about like your relatives like if you're what do you mean like if you're gonna remember them like all the people that you knew like if you can if you're gonna

remember Hitler and who's there like how are you supposed to remember yeah I don't I don't I don't think that we end up having any sort of real uh I personally think that um our awe and like Wonder for the creator of the universe will be just so overwhelming the least of our concerns is ourselves yeah no yeah I just like I

just kind of thought about that for a second as soon as I said it I was like what does that mean about like the people you do know yeah for sure it's like that cousin that you really just didn't like that much or like your grandpa that you haven't seen in years like are you gonna remember it's like I can't remember him

I think it's a nice thought you know that we would be able to like enjoy our time I mean I don't know I just think that we're gonna be in just such like just shock and wonder yeah you know our main focus is just you know the reason that we're there to begin with yeah that's cool that you're open to like talk

about it not a lot of people are really I mean some people are I think it's actually getting maybe better in an odd way I think people are getting a little more open to I think with as wrong as the world has gotten I think more people are trying to be more open about it with like social media and like what's going

on in the government like I think people are really starting to turn to religion to kind of ease their you know anxiety about what's going on in the world because like there's definitely things that I think about that I do to like I guess try to help with that like being open with my faith or um one of the biggest things that

has like really bothers me is like the modesty on social media with women and so like I try to display a lot of modesty and so like that's super dope yeah good for you and so like I think I think here lately people are just going to be more open about religion to hopefully kind of like there's it's like they're kind of

trying to clean it up or they're trying to you know direct people back into more a simpler time I think personally so people are starting to be more open about their religion and their faith to hopefully kind of like spread that message versus spreading all these negative messages that are going around yeah because I don't know if like your parents were well

I guess my parents would be a bad example because they were pretty open to talk about like our dinner table talk growing up was like yeah nothing was really off limits uh but I would say like most people in their generation there was definitely like well you don't talk about politics you don't talk about religion yeah I will say the only thing

that like my parents didn't talk about growing up was politics yeah like I didn't know but now I think we're sort of like starting to see the ramifications of just I mean those are like really some of the most important things yeah to talk about yeah and I've actually there's people from other parts of the world like in the Middle East and

stuff that they find it very bizarre that we're unwilling to talk about some of those things yeah because like that is I mean like how do you really get to know somebody was it just small talk they're trying to take like politics are trying to take religion out of like everything we've built the country on like in God we trust and like

they're trying to take all that out like they're trying to take out you know I can't remember back when I was in like Elementary School well maybe it was because I was going to a private school but like we always started the day with a prayer and the national anthem or not no the Pledge of Allegiance super controversial but I don't feel

like they do that anymore they don't no uh they don't even need the password they let you uh yeah they let you kind of I think they do like moments of silence or something yeah and that's when you're supposed to like but do they even do they still do that I don't know prayers are moments of Silence well I know it started

off with prayers and then it moved to moments of Silence but like do they even do that now I don't even know if they do that I'm not sure yeah it's changed so much since I graduated high school and that wasn't like that long ago yeah um and it's like I don't uh I mean I'll engage with pretty much anybody right like

I mean I really just I'll sit and have a meal I mean I don't care if you're Muslim or atheist or whatever like I'll also turn and talk with you and I'll be friends with you yeah absolutely I don't care uh but yeah I mean there has seemed to be a bit of a white washing like with the history of the country

where it's like we're just now trying to act like you know this country wasn't founded on like certain judeo-christian principles and like that's pretty evident like in any of the historical writings and stuff so that's a little bit bizarre and it doesn't mean that like we don't aren't like welcoming to people differing opinions yeah it's just all crazy to me it's just

crazy well and then you get to like further on down where there's just certain things that like now there's like a hundred genders or something like that a hundred genders I don't know there's like 50 right or 40 no idea no doubt no doubt watch a cow give birth there's two genders yeah I think I actually ran across something like that about

like that girl that wants to identify as a cat no and they allow her in school as long as she's not A disruption to other students I'm like come on people we're better than this no kidding are we maybe we're not no we can't be I mean maybe we're just that crazy oh I don't know but there is some optimistic things going

on I think yeah there's a lot more religion out there everyone's spreading the word more that's good yeah uh there's some of that there's an odd amount of uh like I think the internet is one of the weirdest double-edged swords absolutely like it is so insane like my entire like business and everything that I'm like a horseshoe from Decatur Texas it's like

I can write songs and put them out and a bunch of people listen to them make a living on it and that's wild yeah and then uh I mean like everything Dale's done yeah it's like come on social media yeah it's like but like but then you have the other dark side of the dark side of the end and it gets super

dark yeah I don't like that side yeah it's so weird it drives me crazy there's a lot of stuff on there that I don't like seeing yeah uh yeah I try to my best to filter a lot of it out but do you want to find it you can find it I guess most things have always been that way yeah I mean

I guess it's kind of always been there I guess it's just it's just more openly accepted now I guess it like it's all a lot of that dark stuff has always been there but now it's just like they're kind of throwing it at you now yeah there's like a this there's an odd thing happening right now where like there's this cool edginess

with like being you know so badass and like scandalous yeah and like I'm like it's not that cool no it's really not like I just I don't know but I'm maybe I'm a an anomaly maybe not I'm an old school thinker I think old school like I'm really old school when it comes to that kind of like I mean I post on

social media obviously like I am on social media and I post but like as far as like an old school mindset like what I've what I've tried to create with my social media is like I want to be the example that if I have a daughter one day can see my stuff and I won't feel bad about it yeah that's cool like

I want to be an example for like the youngest of generations like yeah good for you I don't know it's kind of hard though sometimes and like there's little things that can sneak in you know and then you have to reflect on it and be like was that really what I needed to do but that's kind of part of the journey yeah

and then like I think people like I think people try to go the more modest route too or like just don't like and then like they see that's not what's getting the views okay and then they have to go and it's like dude you're stooping down to that level like you can get you can be just as popular with being modest you

know yeah but you know maybe you can't what get more views yeah sure you can well but here's the deal like what if what if you can't like what is the end-all be-all like what's it worth to you yeah I guess is the point yeah you know what's it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul yeah

you know that type of deal so uh yeah now that we talked about what I wanted to talk about we can talk about abortion now that'd be a good I'm just kidding yeah be super controversial yeah right clip that one out for sure well I appreciate you coming here I appreciate you being so open about you know I'd love to do it

again there's some stuff that I still want to ask you about oh yeah for sure uh I don't live that far yeah like an hour and some change yeah definitely well I hope you do well I hope maybe just I hope you keep riding bulls yeah I hope I got a few more years left in me yeah for sure for sure uh

but yeah I appreciate it um I guess is most of your all most your stuff's like on uh Instagram or Instagram yeah I'd say you got a Tic Tac now yeah I've got a tick tock I've had one for a while yeah I just post pretty much just anything about bulls and horses on there do you have your own like merch stuff

I have one t-shirt out for real it's on Dale bursaries okay yeah so if you go to Dale's deal you can find it on there yeah if you just type in my name Jordan my sticker and my shirt come up yeah cool it's like me on a cow or something yeah right on did you design it um I had it designed but

um I had seen another design and I was like man that's me someone else had bought it and I was like all right well I'm gonna get a custom one just kind of like it so I did well heck yeah cool uh well I appreciate it thank you we'll see y'all later adios [Music]