Jena Sparks

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herbalife in the canyon [Music] [Music] welcome to the podcast we were just talking about our little set we made a little bit wider angle to make you feel more homely jenna if you would like to present the pillow we practiced this is like uh this is like the weather the weather people or they don't know where to point yeah they're just like

over here it's gonna rain today so yeah heck yeah well cool thanks for coming out here of course i appreciate it jenna lives in uh denton texas i'm in decatur not too far if you would like to give your personal address you can do that my uh addresses here pull that up a little closer or scoot in a little closer let's go

down yeah there we go we got the uh support and healthy lifestyles the cowboys yes who actually makes those i don't know this is um i know the boutique's name the twisted turquoise pistol the turquoise pistol i get lost with all the different boutiques so many the uh yeah the twisted little cactus the turquoise cactus yes they're all but this one's the

twisted pistol turquoise pistol turquoise the twisted the twisted turquoise pistol something like that brought to you by the three t's twisted turquoise pistol or actually that would be a p in there uh yeah i just exposed my lack of intelligence it's fine it's okay i just hate that it came out so early yeah just i'm right off the bat so this is

different than the cow poke people because i thought that they were doing that too remember how they were like a trend going on i know where they used i did it too on my merch really have you not seen those i don't think so it just says morris there you go but it's kind of in like the marlborough lettering yeah uh but

the cow poke they just says cow poke and they use the marlborough thing that's amazing yeah there's like they're everywhere and they say different things underneath them i don't even know so are they are you do you like rep their brand or yes okay very recently yeah we were talking about this before we started shooting uh the whole process of like this

endorsement type stuff very complicated yeah for sure i mean how many people are you doing that for what's that process like um so most people like just reach out to me on social media or i have my business email and my bio on instagram so they'll just like reach out to me and say hey we want to whatever the deal is so

i want to send you stuff if you can make you know this amount of videos for me or an instagram post so stuff like that and just like some pay some don't it's just like what they offer some businesses are like bigger than others so they can offer more stuff but some are just starting out and just kind of want to get

their name out there so it just kind of depends they want to take advantage of all the eyeballs on you something like that i feel like i'm like your older brother because we go way back oh yeah and it uh to see the amount of attention that you get but then companies don't want to pay for it kind of pisses me off

oh my gosh every time every time jared comes out it's like a like deep talks with jared yeah with the old horseshoe yes that's the way it's supposed to be exactly yeah that's the way i always had uh had it described like the horseshoe was always granted i do a lot of talking right which is different than most horse shoes other horseshoes

in the past i mean they wouldn't say a word to you no we get into it you know we do uh but most horseshoers they always end up being like the uh like the psychologist oh yeah and then people just download all their issues like while you're just sitting how you know they're a good one you know yeah if they're a good

listener yeah that's why i'm a bad horseshoer you know listening is not the strong suit that's why this podcast is good for me right you get it all out yeah get it all out and then i can listen a little bit more at work but yeah we always do have good talks and i've been shooting your horses for years six years something

like that how so when i first met you would have been how old are you now 18 18 almost night and would you really have been like 13 i think so gosh that's crazy when i met you were just like posting videos on your instagram playing music and now you're playing in front of people so now you're playing in front of people

yeah my mom and dad are super supportive right you know they come to every show so at least i got two yes when they stop going that's how you know that's how you know it's time to time to hang it up but yeah i probably i would yeah isn't that wild it would have been before you ever made when did you make

your first tick tock i didn't even know it was [Music] it became big like 2019 right this is like 2018. it was that recent i think so was it like one of the first videos that you did just exploded some you basically what was it was literally a stupid like stupid video not planned out i was filling up waters and that sound

that was like you're thicker or heavy like a chevy what do you mean filling up waters okay there you go filling up the horse's water and just bored waiting for it to fill up and uh that sound like you're thicker than a sticker heavy like a chevy or whatever you heard that one no it's like a dumb what did you say dumb

sound it's like you're thicker than a snicker heavy like a chevy thicker than a snitch yeah i did it with my horse heavy she was just she was staying in there actually i think like i got a couple of them in there but like just i mean a dumb stupid little video just for fun and it just blew up heavy like a

chevy is that like a rap song no it was like a like somebody made some new sounds that's my favorite amazing kind of thing yeah i knew a girl back in the day named chevy really which that she probably didn't love that horse named chevy heavy like a chevy that's funny yeah she probably doesn't like this no probably not yeah you say

it is a song i don't even know it was just like sound like all the goofy little sounds or whatever it was just a joke so you're just filling up waters you did that with your horse and then like how many views did that video get it got a lot i think it was it was close to a million i think and

so is it still on there will you pull it up i need to watch it i haven't seen so this is the first big one that blew up yes so it was with my horse right so then people like loved seeing that whole aspect so then any other videos i put out with my horses did great and anything else i put out

nothing so yeah i definitely drew an audience with that one does that mess with your psyche at all a little bit does it yeah but yes any like that's how all the rodeo people and anybody who's intrigued by the western world they all started following me so that's kind of if i put anything else out that's not related to like anything like

that nothing yeah it doesn't do anything uh jessica my wife has her instagram does well with her horses but then she always tells me like man if i if i do anything with me in it doesn't get any attention right uh but on the on the other side of it too for the longest time if i tried to post anything it's just

so weird how that stuff works right because i don't even know if people are the ones deciding or if it's like if it's the out the algorithm itself yeah because like kind of both probably yeah well i mean the algorithm doesn't just come up with stuff out of nowhere it's based on people's yeah like their likings yeah but for the longest time

mine if i posted her i would get a lot of attention but if i just did me people are like nah bro well like social media loves the whole relationship status whether it's like a couple or sisters or like family best friends anything like that they love that stuff but didn't you say has your dad been on some of them yes didn't

you say they do really well i love my dad they love him if he's in any of my lives anytime i go live in the comments where's your dad oh and that probably feeds his ego so much he's a trip he is how's his groin great a little bit of context jared uh he blew out like he was working out and just

like i don't even know all day i'm just doing squats right leg press yes and just destroyed himself what is his is his groin he like tore it or something i don't know but then he was playing softball you knew the guy you probably he was playing softball like two weeks ago i think and he um tore his hamstring or pulled it

how when was that like two or three weeks ago good grief yeah he was like i think i'm done time to hang it he's probably a little sad now yeah cause he's a pretty active guy yeah he's still working out a ton just not as much yeah well when he did the groin thing he like was lifting an insane amount of weight

oh yeah like more than his body weight for sure i don't even know hey bring me that do you have that tick tock tic tac where's that tic tac i can probably see it you have it okay i know the sound the sound is taken down so let me try to find it bring over that tic tac to that ticket okay here's

the you're thicker than a snicker so see it is like a guy [Music] i was just like oh that's hilarious so just made it thicker than a snicker oh yeah heavy like a chevy and i mean the video is still up there's just no sound to it oh okay we're going off i just scroll down a bunch hey don't shoot don't show

that don't do that one [Music] oh gosh jared your tick tock did really well which one the one we made for you with the show oh yeah um yeah thanks to old jenna so no that's like that's we talk about that pretty often before you made the song right oh about doing videos like that well how people like judge you if you're

like you have a wide brim hat or you're wearing tennis shoes anything like that well the internet puts that on like hyperdrive yeah because a lot of people just don't know what they're talking about they like to think they do oh for sure have you gotten crap for the hat thing oh yeah like we wear wide brims because that's just like the

style i mean that's what you know it's what we wear yeah and people are like your hats on backwards so yeah people that don't know explain that to them the cowboy hat thing yeah so i mean your hat the back of it i mean it's pretty obvious that like to us how we do it but the wide brim like you can see

somebody i can see somebody in their hat and their cowboy hat shape increase and know in two seconds if they bought it at like yes bought it at cavendish nothing against characters but um like those hats they that's to me like uncreased yes you get them like that and then you go gets increased right sure exactly and so that's just like the

mold they like come in but you know like i had that i had a guy one time tell me uh well they do the deal where they're like your hat's on backwards because it's a wide brush because it's cause it's real wide and uh and then i had a guy say uh george strait taught us how to crease a cowboy hat and

that's not how you do it oh i was like good i'm not george strait and i have my own crease in my hat styles change you know that too and the whole point of getting a hat for yourself is like put your own little style into it right well they definitely crease it like to your face you know yeah like your head

and your face shape and all that stuff so like not every crease is going to be the same yeah it's not supposed to be exactly yeah i just get so tickled by it yeah and then that goes into the whole tennis shoes thing yes we wear tennis shoes when we're not riding and just like you know running around and whatnot because they're

just more comfortable and then you make a video or something or a picture and you're not wearing your boots but you're wearing jeans and like you're not really country you're not a cowboy no and it's people that like ironically the people that say that are the ones that aren't it's like so how do you know yeah but if you're around most people

that ride horses or do anything like that like their boots typically just have spurs on them and you take your boots off and you put on tennis shoes exactly instead of taking your put on your boots when you go ride right which i have i mean you got dress boots and stuff we go out someplace nice i wear them but other than

that i don't really wear boots so tennis shoes get a lot of crap for it i found the video so just imagine the sound to it that'd be like a chevy right like that's it i love it just singing it you know playing around you got to you know it's fine and then it explodes and then so now you have uh it's

like seven hundred thousand tic tac followers tic tac something like that crazy i just don't i don't think people fully comprehend how many people that is that's a lot of people that you can on average when you do a video how many views does it get um well my tick tock's like really boosted a lot in the past month so i mean

i've gone up thousands of followers um because i've had like some videos do really well so like on average i'm getting at least 100 000 views on every video 100 000 people and then so i mean there's probably 10 20 000 likes on those right just somebody going yep i like that is so many people so many and those are on average

but tick tock i definitely think goes in waves like you'll do really well at some point sometimes and then it kind of goes down and your videos don't like do as well for like a period of time and then it goes back up it definitely goes in waves i've noticed that what do you think that is i don't know but i've had

other people say that they like other influencers say that's happened to them too and then companies don't want to pay you for it drives me nuts that's a topic we talk about they'll spend thousands of dollars on a billboard but to do a video with you to get a million views they're like oh well maybe 200 bucks i don't know i think

it's a new marketing that's going on definitely with the whole tick tock thing i think people are still figuring it out like it's not just some silly little app you can actually get a lot of business out of it so businesses are definitely noticing that but it's not even isolated to that i mean you have your instagram you have all sorts of

other stuff too oh yeah like youtube yeah stuff like that yeah are you are you doing a youtube channel yes so we have a youtube channel we're trying to get that going i haven't figured that whole world out yet um but we have some friends who did so they're trying to help me navigate through what kind of stuff are you gonna do

i don't know like people just love watching what other people do in their life it's kind of weird but i mean it's true so like all the vlogs and everything super popular if you just video going like a barrel race a lot of people don't get to do that so they love watching that other people get to do that and like you

know what they do like in their daily life and stuff like that so what is your daily existence right now well i'm not going to school as of right now good for you we're trying we're trying to make it outside of that um so i mean i wake up take care of the horses and whatnot um i do like a lot of

photo shoots for brands and just make like videos for them and stuff like that so you know i'll make some videos throughout the day um and kind of like build up content so that i can post it throughout the week kind of deal but i still work horses i still rodeo and all that stuff so just trying to like balance all of

it but i'm also starting an apparel line and merch and then um i'm getting my realtor's license so i have like a backup just in case because you don't need school right so we're trying to we're trying to make it without but i'm fired up today yeah you got your red one i know that was a bad idea i drink that big

coffee so oh my gosh i'm just fired up so you don't need school if you're willing to hustle i mean the internet it's an oyster mm-hmm i've never actually understood what that phrase means like the world is your oyster what is it what does that mean oyster what is an oyster stop it like the clams did you say what is an oyster

i can't even say it oyster is that like the clam thing it kind of is have you never had one i don't think so we were in did i talk about this last time on the podcast about skeeter doing the oyster shot we were in midland yeah we were at a mexican restaurant like in between soundcheck in the show and on the

menu was an oyster shop but we were at like a mexican restaurant and it looked horrible and it doesn't sound too good the guy sells merch and drives a van he uh we convinced him to do it and i bought it for him and we asked the little waitress lady we're like has anybody ever ordered one of these and she was like

never but it wasn't it was uh like vodka and an actual oyster and then uh like cocktail sauce and all just mixed in together he did that whole shot i almost threw up watching him do it yeah but that's what an oyster sort of is but it is like the little clan thing but it's like a real like your life is an

oyster yeah what does that mean are you like the little marble thing inside of the clam whoa that was deep i don't know like you're like the little pearl break out i don't know are they pearls i think so right yeah that would be let's go with that's my best bet we're going with it uh how did i start talking about that

your life is an oyster oh yeah the internet yes i said the internet's like an oyster but if you're willing to like hustle it and even if you have like a product and you start a business or anything and it's like direct to consumer if you're willing to just like work and hustle at it that's what my friends are doing the double

b who i did that big photo shoot with this past week he's 18 senior in high school and he's trying to get this business started and he's like i mean doing really well so i mean he's he said his goal is that he hopes he gets big enough so he doesn't have to go to school and get us do that but his

parents wanted to go for like a backup plan but yeah i'm sure they do i mean there's a ton of people who are doing that kind of stuff like my age now because of the internet and how it's going like it's so much easier to start a business and i mean it's not easy but it's easier to get it out there and

like you know all that stuff so and then when you find people willing to help you know wrap it or whatever if you like if you're if you're willing to learn on your own that's the other thing with the internet is you can learn how to do anything oh yeah like a lot of the stuff that you do like video editing and

things like that you just taught yourself and you just watched other people do it online you didn't have to go pay for some class to learn how to do it exactly and i think people are missing that boat i mean if you want if you know what you want to do and you want to be freaking a doctor that's what i've always

said yeah and go to school but this whole deal where it's like i'm just gonna figure it out and i'm gonna go get a psychology degree yeah and have a hundred thousand dollars in student loan debt well my parents neither one of them use their degrees whatsoever so they were like i get that like completely if you can make it without do

it go for it because you're better off you know you get like an early start basically so yeah so you're the channel though and then like apparel what are you are you doing like an actual clothing line or what do you think so we're trying to do like actual like apparel line besides from my merch so we're doing um like merchandise with

our brand on it and all that stuff and then we're doing like a separate apparel line so heck yeah well what is the apparel so it's all like motivational stuff so it says you know like motivational quotes basically on it and so like barrel racer quotes no it's more like it's like that would be really funny they're actually all like crazy like

messages and so it's like yeah my sister and i we just like i mean we were like mine as well so we were given this platform able to reach thousands of people on our phones so we were like might as well try to make something out of it do some good but yeah so we'll see how it goes yeah well and so

the vlog stuff is just going to be like y'all hanging basically so we have like we have a big photo shoot in oklahoma saturday so we're going to try to vlog that and get a bunch of content out of that where's that at it's in the wichita mountains i don't have never heard of that yeah i didn't know oklahoma had mountains pretty

right i didn't know that i thought it was just flat but no way out east i don't even know they haven't given me location but they said they're salt flats i didn't even know they're assault flats there's like mountains and stuff so we're gonna like get a bunch of content there um and just like vlog and go into barrel races and stuff

like that yeah cool we'll see but you have no idea where that place is i know the photographer so it's not like they're leading me to something does it have anything to do with horses or no yes with cody yeah we're doing one with him and like a giant red dress cody is jenna's old horse oh barrel how old is he's 20

21 something like that now we took his shoes off recently didn't we or no we didn't shoot him again we put front shoes back on that's right but he was he's got some special feet he's different for sure all around special feet he was uh yeah when i first started doing him i think he was in pretty rough shape wasn't he they

yeah they weren't shoeing him right because his feet just are different so we had to like get him right because he was he was they weren't doing it like horrible yeah but not catered to him yeah but didn't you lease him recently no um but no like something sketchy that happened with him [Music] well a lot of people are trying to buy

him okay people try to buy him from us all the time but he's just like he's like a unicorn like one of those horses you don't come across very often but no i give like lessons on him and like um we've had people that needed him last minute and he's just like a saint like that so we've loaned him out we've done

that with two of our friends so yeah i got you she don't want to talk about it [Laughter] that's why this is great she can't get away from me now right i won't make you talk about it's fine i was just gonna call some people out you know but with the video that we did was i on him i can't remember yes

i was on him oh cody jc's running them now so i think they might do high school rodeo but really he still got it he was like big time college rodeo horse when we got him yeah and the people actually called and like wanted him back and we're like we should have never sold him we were like sorry about that sorry about

your look heck yeah he's a good one how many do you have now you got four three four three now three yes now what happened what do you mean oh was there not four yeah oh you just said it you said three now no i got three um and we're looking to get two more yeah um for me next year so like

beginning of the year to train up so yeah that just stressed me out it's [Applause] you need to uh you find your horseshoer to date you know get those uh free shoeins are you sure well that's what i have you for yeah but you can't date me well true but i make videos for you that is true that is true we have

a nice deal uh set up there where uh i come out and shoo horses and then she helps me get people to pay attention to my little songs little songs are you kidding me they're my little songs like my widow whatever oh see my widow song my widow wait where's the where'd the pillow go have you seen those videos on the um

they do the toyotas the tacomas you never seen those i don't think so i spent we went to colorado not that long ago and i spent the whole time doing this but they video like when you see a uh like a little toyota truck you know yes and they have those little ladders on them and stuff and the guy will be like

oh or they'll have the snorkel on it and i'll be like oh it's a little water it's a little snorkel when they're getting the water and it's too deep so that's my little water other way man i'll tell you what this does trip me out it's kind of weird yeah i understand the weather people now yeah it's going to rain somewhere in

this general area over here [Music] yeah um see look at old mikey over there crushing it oh hey so you're doing stuff with uh nrs now right yes oh i didn't even notice that national roper supply mm-hmm so yeah that's like a recent program they started so they reached out to me before they started it and we're like hey we want to

do this but we don't know what we're doing so kind of bear with us like again i think the whole social media thing is so like new to people and they just don't know yet so yeah it's like just a whole learning process but yeah they started a program so um they just like send stuff and we posted them and rep them

and whatnot and then after a year then you know you have a chance to like come on and actually work with nrs so like for interest so yeah if you get enough attention basically i think you're there but they're super great people thank you super easy to work with your agent uh yeah oh uh nrs used to be david's really david's western

ware do you really not remember that for real dang yeah it used to be well it's always been here in decatur but they have a few different locations but yeah like david uh is the guy that originally started it and his son i graduated high school with his son i was pretty good buddies with this really yeah they all still his sons

works there and runs he used to run the weatherford store and now i think he's here in decatur now uh but yeah i know them real well that's awesome they're good people yeah super good people all the staff is great that i've worked with so far yeah they're really good people yeah heck yeah so how do you uh why don't they sponsor

you for like the rodeo stuff i don't know how does that get like compartmentalized i don't understand it i don't i don't really know because i do rodeo but i also do like the whole influencer i guess you could say side of things so like i don't know some people reach out and kind of do like both like we want to sponsor

you and have you be you know like a rep kind of deal so they're technically like a sponsor but then a lot of them are just like reps stuff so i don't know some send like patches and whatnot um with the stuff even though it's technically just like a rep deal but i've had a few reach out and they've sponsored but also

like want me to post on tick tock and all that stuff okay all the clothing and all that stuff so right like um like rodeo bum they own the hat store in houston i'm pretty sure it is but they started like an apparel line and they just call it like rodeo bum but it's like the rodeo bomb hat company so they are

technically my rodeo sponsor but it's like i post stuff out there on tech talk and whatnot like wearing their clothes and everything like that so it's a little more than just like the rodeo sponsors i think it is an rs sponsor tough maybe man i don't even i mean maybe they haven't ever really done that type of stuff i feel like i'm

not sure i don't know i feel like they sponsor some people i don't know but like it's you know a big company sponsors like a rodeo athlete they just wear their patches and you know tag them when they run or whatever i do more of like i'm wearing the clothes look what i'm wearing you should go buy it kind of like influencing

them sure to go buy their stuff yeah so it's a little different but you know but i do both so i can you know go to rodeos and some of them you know send patches or whatever and so i want me to put it on or i'll just wear like a hat and take a picture at a rodeo kind of deal so

what's some of the drawbacks of having that much attention on you oh tough subject i'm kidding um it is a tough subject there's like a real part of that oh yeah um i don't know i mean there's sometimes you struggle with it more than others but like i never expected this to happen or never really wanted this to happen but you know

i feel like everything happens for a reason so i'm just rolling with it but try trying to stay very low to the ground because sure you know some people they get attention and they just get on their high horse so i don't ever want to be like that but i don't know i'll let you know if you are perfect yeah you can

just vice versa well but part of that's probably like you said uh you didn't necessarily like want it to happen or you weren't like trying to make it happen right it was just like for fun so that probably helps being fun if you were like really trying and wanting it right i feel like it'd be different yeah i don't know so what

but what does that like really mean like what's some of the things that you struggle with it i don't know like i don't know like i go places you know people sometimes notice me and stuff like that and like parents have already always taught us like you know have good character you never know who's watching but now it's more real than ever

so you know it's just stuff like that like being conscious about like what you're doing and who's watching and whatnot um because there are like a lot of little girls who reach out to me they're like oh my gosh you're my idol and you know then they'll see me in public and want to take pictures and stuff so you know i just

try to like always have a good attitude and like you know positive vibes basically because that's not always easy watching it's not especially like when you rodeo i mean there's usually like one winner and you lose a lot more times than you win so you know sometimes you get frustrated with a run but like i had a i had a bad run

recently and i was super frustrated just like with myself because i felt like i didn't perform very well came right out and a girl walked up to me and was like oh my gosh i've seen you on youtube and so i immediately was like we just need to calm down like we're fine it's okay and then you know talk to this girl

and then you know it was fine but that was kind of like a you never know who's watching you never know you know yeah what people are going to take from that so but daggum you're having to learn a lot of like emotional intelligence at a very early age oh yeah for sure a lot but it's i mean it sounds like you're

pretty aware of it though i mean yeah like i mean i don't know i don't want to walk around and be like a douchebag and people be like oh she's like you know she tries to be on social media and like acts one way but in person she's another way sure which a lot of people like from my school i've heard that

i you know went to school with and graduated with and whatever um i've just heard from like people i still talk to and everything that they're like oh like now that she you know has followers or whatever she's like different or thinks she's whatever and like i don't know it kind of hurts first i'm like i don't think that and like whatever

i don't know but well there is a part of that too that like growing up like there has to be an element of changing i mean true yeah the real ones will stick together if you change and it's like in some better ways that's good right i was talking recently i think it was on another podcast about because i'm in my hometown

and i'm different than the way i was in high school right like all in a lot of ways for like for the good mm-hmm and i'll you know i'll hear people saying like oh he's just different now and it's like well thankfully i'm not the same as i was when i was 15. right exactly you're the exact same like that would suck

yeah for sure but that's incredibly difficult to it's yeah it's not i would imagine a lot of that's based off of jealousy for you i don't know because they just want to tear you down right but it still kind of sucks it still kind of sucks because i mean i don't see myself as different what's the ways that they say that you're

different just like you know i have like a following now and you know well that's different but doesn't mean you're different exactly but i feel like people just like kind of associate the two together and like think that like i don't know like in my graduation party you know i had some friends from high school or whatever come and like we were

just talking about it because i haven't really seen them since because school was really different this year or when i went and like i was online so i didn't see a lot of people often so when i did see everybody then they like told me like yeah people were saying that you know you're different now and like you think you're better than

everybody else basically because you have like a following yeah like i don't put that out there whatsoever i try to put content out that's like all positive and welcoming for everybody and like i don't put anything out there to make anybody mad yeah the man they're jealous and that's so difficult to deal with yeah at like any age that's difficult right i

mean it's definitely been like a big change and sometimes you know it gets it gets kind of rough but yeah you push through it's what it is so and then having to there's a part of letting people in to a certain degree but then when it doesn't go how they had it made up in their mind right how your life doesn't go

the way that they want it to it's a really weird thing exactly because they feel like they almost own a part of you yeah so art i think you might have learned it the hard way sort of a little bit but like maybe not letting people in too much yeah a little bit um i don't know like i as much as like

as weird as it sounds i actually try not to be on my phone a lot try not to be on social media a lot because like i was and it just i mean i was just like this is too much i can't and basically and so i was like i mean i still want to live life you know what i mean and

so i don't know like i try not to be on my phone a whole lot and try not to be you know let it consume me kind of deal but then like you know people are like you're never on your phone you never respond like you're doing this and i'm just like i don't know what to tell you like i'm trying to

try to make it on my own so yeah you got to live a life outside of it oh yeah for sure it's a beautiful world out there exactly when you do real stuff oh yeah i mean basically the content i put out is of me just living doing what i do on the daily life i mean i don't try to put anything

out there that i'm not you know what i mean like i'm not trying to hide anything yeah i don't know yeah you can't put i don't know maybe at some point you could do it but you got in a bit of a pickle like that with somebody you were dating right where i got on your videos and then y'all broke up and

then people got like pissed off yeah well i don't know people are definitely like in your personal business a lot i mean they want to know everything that's going on and like again i'm not trying to hide anything but i'm not going to put everything that i'm going through out on the internet you know what i mean so i mean there's definitely

like a having to deal with that side of things like people trying to get in your personal life and asking all these questions and whatnot when you're trying to deal with stuff on your own sure that's when it gets kind of difficult but you know ultimately i just tell them like yeah like you know what we're good we'll work through it like

you know yeah thanks for being concerned like i don't know what to tell you but yeah so what's do you see a lot of people that may i think i struggle with this because what we're talking about the exact reason that we're like i'm able to put music out to people or you're able to like develop an actual like marketing brand right

is because people are on their phones a lot looking at social media and looking at what we do at the same time which i appreciate and like that's the only reason i can write songs and put it out to people exactly the same token it concerns me a little bit yeah because it's like man you got you guys need to live a

life too right you know like there's a whole world out there exactly and i don't know if there's a way to like have both like i think you can get on there and enjoy it exactly yeah i mean people i see like a whole negative side of tick tock like of kind of like the jealousy aspect people commenting on videos and like

sometimes my videos sometimes i see it on other videos of like i want to be them or i'm sad that i'm not them oh i see them or do what they do yeah and so when i see those comments like i just try to respond and be like girl you're doing great on your own like you know you're gorgeous yourself like you

don't need to you know hate on yourself because you don't look like anybody else yeah i know i try to keep everything positive on that aspect because i see a lot of that and just like the jealousy whole thing like you know be happy with yourself just because you're not living somebody else's life doesn't mean your life sucks yeah and the whole

idea of social media it's basically a highlight reel in a lot of ways it is very much so yeah like i'm not going to show on my deal or i get in a fight with my wife and i'm super sad like i'm not gonna post that exactly so you just see the highlight reel basically which is tough for people i think i

don't know i don't it's a double-edged sword because i'm appreciative of it but yeah i don't know i think it gets in some people's heads a little bit too much yeah social media like i mean i'm on social media i have a decent following but i hate social media and it's such like an in a way yeah but i don't know i

feel like i said it's so new people are it's evolving that's kind of like how our world's running these days so it's just like it's a whole new aspect that people are having to deal with and everything and so i don't know it's just that's a lot right so uh speaking of not letting people enter getting too personal you got a boyfriend

now or no we no we're uh we're taking a break from relationships i know yes from relationships huh oh yeah i got a couple prospects that i think i can yeah we got a couple in mind okay i don't know about the horseshoer thing though right because they can be a tough bunch yeah i feel like it's either like good or bad

you like cowboys or what yeah i don't discriminate oh the cowboys can be difficult though i guess it depends on what type of cowboy true there's a bunch of different types there is how many different types of cowboys do you think there are oh nowadays yeah a lot oh let's go through them a lot okay um we got like your rodeo kids

okay but that's different from like your ranchers you know what i mean sometimes they're both so you got rodeo cowboys and then you got like then you've got ranch like cowboy kids like punch like i'm talking like keyables yeah okay and then you got like your social media cowboys that's a whole another ball game okay yeah so that's like your cavender cowboy

uh more like boot bar yeah more like boubon shots fired yeah so anyways yeah um i feel like there's that's fine but see i think you could take that another step and you could you have like the love's gas station cowboy you do ooh those are my favorite like i'm talking yeah palm leaf like uh we're talking toby keith hat um cowboy

yeah what it's like the old tim mcgraw hat or whatever that he used to wear um there's a college car up to four there's like a frat boy cowboy now interesting yes they're like i mean it's like the light wash wranglers and the like you tuck the shirt in and then sometimes you have a hat and sometimes not interesting so okay so

it's like the parker look yes i'm not saying that parker's frat boy cowboy did that is that what they kind of stole it from maybe i don't know it like light wash wranglers that are like i think they're like cowboy cut maybe i don't even know but they're more like skinny at the bottom they're not very like wide and they probably buy

their jeans like way too short sometimes yeah so when they sit down the jeans like come up way over the boot yeah it floods everything basically yeah that's like five there's i mean like five people could go on uh there's probably there's like a musician cowboy too yes very much so um some of those ones are interesting though because they like admittedly

will be like hey man i don't know i just like country music yeah i just like country music i don't like hats you know yeah [Music] no but there's like in the inside of those i feel like there's also options like the rodeo boys they have like the roughy kind of stereotype what's a roughie the ones who ride rough stock and then

there's time ease the one let's do the time events right so they say that there's like a whole stereotype in there of different but it's the same with girls how would you describe the difference between your ropers and your ruffies well i don't even know if there like really is a difference everything i see they're kind of almost the same really because

like ruffy's they say like are not loyal and kind of you know uh what's it called i'm gonna let you fill this one out like um uh what is it called like explore their options that was open not what i thought that was a super polite way of saying that right exactly just exploring their eyes but i mean they're not all like

that's just the stereotype that everybody puts out like you know on social media on tick tock and everything but then the ruffies they say that like some of them they're like the more loyal like husband material you know what i mean but then like headers and healers they said there's a difference between those and you know some are just like the ruffies

i don't know how would you describe the calf ropers the calf ropers those are my favorite oh there we go getting some info if you're a calf roper like you're a pf roper i feel like maturing is realizing that it's sister ropers and or the calf ropers very much so i've seen a lot of steer wrestlers get uh yeah they get so

this is interesting you know how you like they call it getting wifed up what would you call it getting husbanded up getting husbanded up i don't know maybe my friend always tried to tell me and i was like no honey but now i get it i get it now about like the steroids bulldoggers yeah i mean that's always kind of been a

stereotype i think yeah that they're like yeah your ruffy's roy's a little bit more wild yeah i mean you can't you kind of have to be kind of have to be if you're going to get on then again man diving down off a horse going that fast i mean true on a steer like you can't really be right in the head to

do that either yeah but do you have to be right in the head of rodeo in the first place uh yeah for sure you got to be you got to be kicking on a different a little bit of a wild side totally yeah uh and then so we have like sub we have categories sub subdivisions of the different but the girls the

girls is a whole nother aspect of it see that was that's one all of the ones that you listed off about the guys i can i feel like it's i can pretty well understand that the ones that i don't know as much about are the women i mean like i can i know a pretty significant difference between like well there's like a

whole western fashion thing going on oh yeah and so they like these girls post like western fashion and then just get called buckle bunnies like constantly because they just dress up western fashion you know what i mean they're buckle bunnies they are the buckle bunnies that's what everybody's saying just because they dress like they yeah kind of like the country music singers

they're like i like country music but i'm not cowboy sure they kind of post this like you know i just like the western fashion industry and i like dressing like this which i think is cool i'm into all that stuff exactly i mean it's a cool culture a bunch of cool design oh yeah i got i think it's awesome yeah exactly but

then they get like attacked on social media and they call them like a buckle bunny and stuff like huh i don't think people understand what a buckle bunny is no what is a bunny well you know they like the ruffies buggle bunny are they exploring their options too yes just i mean they go hand in hand with the ruffies you know what

i'm saying i do yeah i mean never mind it's fine i didn't know why i answered it like that oh yeah i know uh yeah so well describe the barrel racer ooh um the stereotype or like my understanding some of the stereotypes all right okay here's the thing so barrel racers like are made out to be crazy and like wild um i

don't even know but i feel like that's just that's kind of how i don't know i have barrel race my whole entire life and i've only met like a handful of people like that yeah i mean they're definitely they are out there sure there's one in everything there's people like that in general in general exactly but like the whole community in itself

i don't really see that so i don't know like i'm not like that i would say that they're wild in the sense i mean you run like a half-ton animal yeah and a metal can yeah you gotta be some kind of crazy but i feel like there's different versions of crazy you know what i mean yes like you gotta have like a

wild side right in your mind to be able to go do that stuff but with the whole like relationship part of things yeah they're not necessarily insane there not really but they like make them out to be kind of you know yeah exploring their options i think nowadays most people regardless of what you do or what you're into most people are just

nuts that's what i've observed recently basically you know and if you're in this little tiny microcosm of like the horse world you can think like horse people are nuts oh yeah and it's like well because i've done a lot of different stuff and it seems like anywhere i'm at i find people that i'm like there's heavens there's one in every crowd oh

yeah you know i mean there's good and bad in all of the things we've talked about but you know overall the stereotypes that they put out i mean not all the time they're true but sometimes well there's like horseshoer stereotypes really yeah what do you mean never on time oh mm-hmm uh like on oregon yeah ding got that one uh like unorganized

ding got that one you know they drink a lot what are you drinking before shows i have settled down tremendously isn't it something that i've had to work you said something recently you changed you drink some like wine or something before shows uh well i tried that for a little bit oh okay because i wouldn't drink as much wine right you know

just like have a couple glasses and then you start to drink a little too much wine right and line is carried away so i've pretty well cut out the drinking you know yeah uh which is good that's a good thing good okay you know i had to make that change right uh but yeah i mean like a lot of horseshoers drink quite

a bit because we're just in so much pain right like genuinely oh yeah helps us go to sleep i get that um so yeah you got that one like i can't tell you the amount of people that have gone to their place for the first time to shoo and you know i get done and i'll be like you know so uh if

you like what i did you know i can come back out put you on a schedule and they'll be like oh yeah man i was just tickled death that you showed up on time and you weren't drunk i've probably had at least five or six people say that to me good i'm like good heavens that's our like we're not even talking about

if i did a good job we're just talking about wow on time yeah you can come back there was one lady who had a story about a guy who showed up in a cadillac and he had like all the shoe and stuff in the trunk and he rolled out and he was hammered and he was just like cowboy well that's probably our

seventh one that's the cadillac cowboy which i think could probably be lumped in a little bit to the love gas station cowboy a little bit probably you're seeing the movie dallas buyers club i don't think so it's got matthew mcconaughey okay well never mind that's always a terrible thing to do know when you ask somebody oh and they're seeing this movie and

they're like no or the person that when you ask when you like tell somebody you've ever seen this movie and then you're like no and then they go on to like explain it they're like well there's this one part where you're like okay like okay i don't think i can go down the road well all right so when does some of the

clothing apparel stuff come out um are you just working on designs well we got all those finalized we're only starting out with my merch we have one design okay cool um and it's kind of like our main design we're gonna roll with and then the other ones we started off with just like three simple basic ones and we're just gonna like you

know put them out there so we have four going like four different designs and just kind of see what happens see how it goes but yeah when's your stuff coming out uh we have some that was really good too by the way give your answer then ask a question i gotta flip the interview around yeah i caught it though i'm not gonna

let you do it okay we'll answer your question but then i'm gonna flip it back around okay uh so because i'm thinking of the question i got to ask you before i answer the question you know right uh merge designs i guess we have we have a brand new line of merch coming out right now um and i can't reveal the name

of it yet is it what we talked about before uh-huh okay sure i can't reveal the name of it yet though but we have the designs like pretty much done yes working on some trademark stuff and it's gonna be pretty awesome i'll definitely buy it oh yeah well you're gonna wear it for sure i got you i'll uh but i mean you'll

put it on your videos and stuff basically for free i'll just give you a discount code heck yeah i mean i will you know spend every second of my day yeah making these videos making these videos for you making your brand blow up and make it blow up but you know just a discount yeah and then i'll just kind of like i

can like give you a shirt for free or something yeah i mean it's fine like a hat maybe that's a real thing it's a real thing everybody sent yeah like how often does that happen to you where they're like i'll send you a hat will you wear it in all your videos it's like sure let me do this video that gets as

many views as the super bowl and i'll wear your hat i don't know like i love doing it like for you know people we know sure trying to help them grow or stuff like i have a few people who like i know them and it's like a relationship type of deal yeah and you know love helping them out and whatnot totally but

you know i can i can only do so much yeah when i have all these other people asking me and they just all want to do it for free and then i spend you know waste a day making all these videos for people and it's like okay well that's why now you have an agent that can handle a lot of that yes

exactly okay you just contact me i'm now jenna's agent right if you need anything go to jared hit me at uh jared morris hit me mike well right on um thanks for coming out of course your horses are probably coming up dude aren't they uh i think next week are they really well look at that we can just go ahead and schedule

it now perfect yes i'll see you in a week or two yeah we probably should uh can we do uh i think we could totally did it whenever we made those videos of you on cody is that really the last time i shot it uh that was a long time ago like it was suckers are long didn't i go out there to

tax shoe on or something like that yes yeah we should do next week okay deal and then we can do a video yes a youtube video we can do whatever yeah i don't know whatever okay um we need to get youtube videos rolling for you oh no we did the one we need to get more you did a couple i think i

did two actually yes it came out to a show and you did one while i was shoeing yes which there's some funny clips from the ones shoeing yes see you get like a lot of content from just like you know an hour of shooting yeah so yeah well i think this might be our first podcast that we're gonna release okay and then

we can do that and then we can make some follow-up videos right i love to talk maybe i'll start a podcast you 100 well don't do it let me get some students going before you do it so i don't you know i don't know if my fragile my fragile ego can handle you just coming in here and blowing we need to get

we need to get dad in one of these i okay so i feel like he would freeze up is her dad the one that i walked up to the yeah big old jack dude like you must not work out well it's so weird too because we're talking oh mike over here and he was being so docile that day and then all of

a sudden he walked out and saw your dad and just got this weird urge to just go up and like yeah kind of just like poke at him a little bit like hey dude oh he you think you're big all the time he thinks y'all are just like the greatest thing ever it's so fun and he's like worse cause when you i

was talking to him and mike just walked up and he what did you say to him it was something about like you ever been in a gym before he must have never been like in a gym before or something like that something about it i was standing next to almost like making fun of him about the fact that he was like looked

like he was a security 100 was talking trash yeah 100 and your dad just i just remembered it no because that's like that's like his love language is like being mean yeah i mean making fun of people you know you just got to take it so he likes to get whooped on it the relationship really just blocked him in that moment this

was the look i actually mike walked right next to him i was on the other side of your dad and mike said that to him and your dad just looked at him and went and i was like yeah but uh then he blew out his groin he did do that so we you have right there yeah you have ammo so it's fine

well right on thanks jenna of course uh use jenna's discount code look her up on instagram the tic tac and we're gonna do some videos too perfect right on see y'all