Dusty Slay

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there is a lot of different kinds of money out there like when I was a kid uh you know like there's like uh like old money new money Blood Money Drug Money we didn't have any of that [Laughter] what we had was good money right good money that's where your parents buy you something you don't like they go we paid good money

for them [Applause] [Music] good money buys the worst stuff too never anything good money buys like airbrush t-shirts with your name on it from Gatlinburg Tennessee Dollywood you know what I mean [Music] I always play a song and then once it's like that you've established that you're a great musician then they'll start doing jokes I see this in Nashville a bunch they

won't you know they won't do a routine but they'll be like you know they'll tell a joke or two because they can during their set yeah because they can just go back to playing guitar if the joke bombs they can go oh but I'm a great musician you know but it is like a legit they're not a comedian it's like a legit

music show yes okay uh cause like I love stand up I love comedy yeah but like I try to incorporate stuff into my Set uh not necessarily like full well I will say they probably are a little bit of bits yeah because it's like a story yeah and I want it to be a little bit entertaining I love the old school songwriter

thing you know like the guy Clark and Robert Earl Keen and like I don't know if you've heard some of those guys live but I've never heard them live but they tell such great stories and they're so funny and it just brings the whole show to life in a way that like I'd never really seen before and it's kind of a little

bit of a lost art but I can see yeah I like that stuff I mean but you know I'm talking Nashville it's uh you know we're in a bar and probably chances are you don't even know who the musician is okay and they may have great stories but I've seen them try to tell a joke yeah where it'll be a joke and

not a story and then does it bomb mostly yeah sometimes I hate it when it does a bomb I'll be honest because I'm like if they getting they're getting laughs I'm like well you can't have all the talents if okay so but if somebody if you were to like just play the guitar and like sing me a song I would be not

nearly you'll just be like hey man I'm like starting to just figure this out and like I'm just I just enjoy it yeah I wouldn't I wouldn't have a problem if you were like terrible at it or something do you feel like that when you hear like somebody try to work that stuff into their no I don't think so I mean I

think if you're you know playing guitar and like it's all fascinating to me because I can't play guitar I'm sure it's like one of those things where if I just practice every day for a couple of hours I would eventually be able to do something right but I you know I don't that's why Comedy Works for me because I don't I didn't

really have to like I was good at it right away like you know I got much better I wasn't where I am now when I started but I was like able to get laughs immediately so you're able like it'd be like if you pick up the guitar and you're like oh I can play the you can play like a simple song you're

like oh this is great now I'll just learn the hard ones right that's kind of what I did you know like I could play a simple song right away so I had to learn the hard ones like you were naturally funny or yeah I mean I always made people laugh and I always had a ability to tell jokes I mean I grew

up in Alabama and it's like we used to just sit around and like tell Street jokes all the time you know like you know you know what I mean like a joke like uh oh a fat woman and a preacher went to the sure bar so that kind of thing sure so you learn delivery you know by telling those jokes because you

ever heard somebody tell a street joke and they're like part way into it and they go oh hold on hold on hold on I meant to I meant to say this part and then though and then they'll go like blah and it's like well if you got a blah the joke maybe we don't want to hear the whole thing is it do

you think it's naturally a feeling thing just hanging out with people and being able to understand I guess like the Cadence of and like when the Cadence of like maybe the story or the joke and then and then just having that sensation of when you're kind of losing them you know there's obviously people that tell stories and you're just like gosh like

I know come on yeah I think so you know but I grew up around people telling stories all the time you know my dad and his friends they'd be telling stories so it's like you kind of like I so I don't know if it's natural if you just watch it so much that you learn how to do it or like if you

have enough people to kind of heckle you in just average life right or if you're around people that give you a hard time that if you're telling a bad story and then they just jump in and they steal it from you yeah and they just ruin your punch line that's true but it naturally teaches you like you lost their attention you need

to yeah if you're talking for a while and people stop kind of you got to learn to tighten it up you know because if you're in like a party and you tell a story and then uh it gets a laugh like you could go to another group of people at that same party and tell that story again yeah basically what stand-up comedy

100 yeah do people do you feel like people act like you need to be on and perform when you're not I think so sometimes people are like uh I've had I had a guy that I was working with one time before I was full-time comedy he brought his son to work with us one day and the guy later he goes his son

was like I thought he'd be funnier I thought he'd be like joking all the time he said that to yours he said it to his dad his dad told you yeah and I want to be like well I hate this job and I hate your son yeah none of this is fun for me I'm writing jokes about you when I leave absolutely

but not at work so he just felt like he needed to be entertained I think so I think I think people have this idea of a comedian in their head that's just like all the time like making jokes but I hate that I've met some of them that aren't actually very funny naturally yeah but they're oh I take that back they're very

funny and they're like really good Riders but in the context of just hanging out they're either just kind of a bad hand or they're just not very funny yeah and I think you can just get exhausted from telling jokes sure you know what I mean like you're just like you just you know you do show after show after show and then you're

like uh it'd be like you showing up to a party and people being like hey play a song for us and I bet they do totally yeah it's and it almost that way it feels different though because if especially if you're like a dude that plays guitar and you're single I feel like every party you would want to be like oh I'll

play a little something for you I just get so nervous yeah and especially if it's not I just so badly uh don't want to be that guy uh and just be a douche yeah and I'd like and I'd truly enjoy it in the sense of well I didn't start playing Guitar start singing or writing songs to get chicks or anything like that

like that's not why I did it I did it because I really enjoy it yeah and then just that I don't know and I'm at that age too that it was like the perfect time we're in a lot of movies and stuff you had the guy like at a party with a guitar oh yeah what movie is it where he kicks that

guitar in half there's a I think Animal House they take John Belushi takes the guitar from the guy yeah uh I don't know there was a there was one with like um Dane Cook I think he was in a movie where there was a guy that he's like playing it he just somebody walks up and just kicks the guitar in half while

he's playing it and I think I just have those Visions oh yeah me being that so I just like shot away from it yeah I mean I had a guitar at my house for a while I hate when people can uh well they'll just they just know like the first two seconds of every song Oh play Dark Side of the Moon for

you or whatever another and it's like or whatever and well okay what about Stairway to Heaven yeah what about this one yeah and I just told my friend he did that so many times I go when you leave today take that guitar with you because I never want you to play that at my house don't ever that do that to me was

it his idea to do it to play songs yeah I mean they were just you know you're just hanging on they'll just pick it up and they'll start strumming away and I'm like well you go ahead and take that because I don't want that over here it's like the slow grab for it yeah where you're sitting you can tell that they're oh

you really wanting to do it so you don't have with comedy you don't have an object I guess some of them don't some of them do yeah most of us don't most of you yeah that's some problems you know you could you could see them kind of like reaching for it and just kind of start oh yeah you're like that dude wants

to play that thing and try to impress this yes there's a whole lead up to it which causes anxiety for me and then if they're terrible sometimes though if they're awesome you know it could be really cool but it's also why I hate karaoke I'm petrified of doing karaoke why are you afraid of it because the whole point of karaoke is to

be bad sort of oh okay oh and I don't even want to say this to sound pretentious or anything but like well I do this for a living like obviously like I'm good at it to a certain degree yeah that idea of going to karaoke though is to be sort of a disaster and you get up there and you're like slick and

or not even trying to be slick you just do your thing but you're good at it right you do it yeah and then everybody's like oh this I think there is a whole movement of karaoke people though that think they're about to get a record deal uh Off karaoke oh you think I mean I in Charleston I remember that and I think

it's especially in Nashville I think it happens a lot in Nashville where people are like you know they're like who knows who could be out here so they're like really belting it out oh so you actually and they might be pretty good huh yeah I would think so I would think Nashville would have the best karaoke in the country I don't know

why I would have to think so I don't know if that would make me feel more comfortable because I'm pretty used to like uh we have a little place called here in Decatur Texas a little place called frilly's okay little seafood joint okay let me tell you it is yeah it's pretty awesome yeah but it's about being terrible I was just drinking

a lot well that's a problem for me I feel like my karaoke was always so bad that it's not even fun for people like people are not like they're just like jeez what happened up there what's like the go what's the go-to I don't know I used to like this song but this Bob Dylan song uh I think it's rainy day women

and then it's a couple of numbers where he's like everybody must get stoned I love doing that song and well that's probably nobody's gonna know that yeah I always picked the wrong song [Laughter] yeah okay this might be like sacrilege but you there's a good chance you sing it better than him yeah well that could be true too you know if they

would just go listen to the original that's true they're like I feel like this cat's crushing it they're like geez this was terrible and then they gotta listen to that one you like you seem pretty hip on the music thing like yeah I love yeah I mean I'm all about it I love music oh man I love I mean I know everybody

loves music people always say that you know everybody I think my wife hates music I said that to her the other day and she was pretty offended by it but why do you think she hates me I don't know she just seems to like you know she likes a lot of Pop you know oh you're not even you're not even you're like

putting pop outside of music yeah I mean it's like there's some that's good what do you what does pop mean to you I don't know I just gotta hear it when I'm listening to it okay though oh yeah this is not it so it's not necessarily just because it's popular yeah I mean there's some good pop I mean obviously and a lot

of there's a lot of country I like that people would consider pop sure you know sure but I don't know sometimes I'll just like we shared a Spotify for a while and then I would uh you know click back into it after she had been on it and I'm like what's she been listening to that's kind of cool you guys share a

playlist uh we did for a while we finally got a separate one because it would be like it's just too much we shared one right so we shared One account so I'd be listening to it somewhere and then all of a sudden it would disappear dude that's kind of a cool uh she would start listening to but you only did it because

you were just sharing Spotify yes it wasn't well we you know we got a couple playlists We'll add songs to here and there is it like a bonding thing sort of well I'm trying to I like to think I'm trying to show her some music that she maybe has never heard of before she grew up in Canada so and what part uh

she grew up in a town called Peterborough Ontario dude I was born in Peterborough were you born in Peterborough no okay but I was trying to connect but they're not panicked okay where's Peterborough it's about two hours north of Toronto that's on the east side yeah like above you know New York State it's above New York State I thought it was West

Michigan yeah Toronto's not west of there I don't really know much about Canada yeah it's like you can go in through Buffalo New York through Niagara Falls and then right up into Toronto or you can go you know through Detroit how would you get there through Detroit well you just kind of I don't know I'd have to draw it on a map

for you but you just you know you just go through and then you just keep following that road I can't assume they have paper I kind of want to watch you draw yeah you know I went there's a Sarnia I've been through I've been through a few you know but then like above Montana that's um Alberta that's the only one that I

really uh know I'm spending I'm gonna spend a month in Calgary okay in August I did uh comedy in Edmonton Alberta yeah and uh I bet dude I bet they were cool I had some beef brisket there really the some of the best beef brisket I've ever had it's so good uh I know a lot of people just through like the rodeo

world I know a lot of people from Alberta and they are honestly it in some ways they're more uh like almost American then even a lot of Americans that I know yeah I mean I was really shocked I mean I liked you know I grew up in Alabama so I always growing up I just felt like everything above like the Mason-Dixon line

was like all cities and like I thought that the South was the only place that was country and everything else was like just everybody was rich and they were you know so as I traveled the country I realized there's a lot more redneck throughout our country than I thought totally in all the best ways I don't mean that in a negative way

in the it was like amazing to me like driving through Michigan I'm like oh this is practically Alabama no totally and then when I got up into Canada it's the same thing like Toronto is huge but once you get out of Toronto it's like oh we're just out in the country here I think it's like that pretty much across the world for

the most part yeah you just get out of like the road well we're like in Dallas right now I mean you talk to most people here and they act just about the same as anybody from any major complex yeah but you go out of here 20 minutes and it's like they would be pretty much the exact same as the guy from Mission

yeah I mean and that's what we always say about Nashville we said because we went driving around looking for land we bought some land outside of Nashville and we would say you know the great thing about Nashville is you're like Nashville's a big city it's happening but 15 minutes you're in back in Tennessee totally and it's great it is different though Tech

like once you get further out west the idea of the like the Redneck Country sort of thing changes a little bit yeah as opposed to more like the Deep South or some other parts of the country well I don't know where Colorado Falls but when I drove once from Nashville to Colorado and I drove through Kansas and the moment I got into

Colorado it was like a little kind of dirt mountains with trailers everywhere and I was like all right that's what I'm talking about this is my kind of place out here uh just like not a trailer park but just you know a little more spacious yeah not a park but trailers yeah parked they had a yeah they were parked they probably had

a real address though you know what I mean totally like a County Road address yeah I don't know exactly what that would be what kind of trailers were they just like mobile homes oh okay you know yeah I don't like there's like a there's you get way more of a cowboy culture out here which is different than uh then I guess your

stereotypical Southern Country yeah for sure I mean you're out on the land you're doing stuff I mean like a room a redneck like you know you're sitting around in the house you go to work and you get off and you may have a little yard you're messing around in but you're drinking you're you know what I mean you're just you know you're

just kicking I lived in Florida for a little bit in South Florida and I remember the first time I went to a country bar and there's I guess I figured they were playing country music or whatever but I go in there and I had uh you know like out here we starch our jeans and like you go out to a restaurant or

something it's like cowboy hat sport coat starch jeans like nice boots yeah and like I go to this little country bar in there and they're all in uh you know like Jorts like Jank what were the jankos jinkers oh jinkos with the bags real baggage ends I had a couple of drinkos did you were a jinko boy well they were expensive so

I didn't have I had one pair of jenkos and an off-brand kind but I had some bags was that was that your Vibe was yeah you know I didn't know what I was doing you know I'm trying to find my place in the world so I'm like yeah jenko you know it's like to be cool it was like either you wore like

Tommy Hilfiger oh yeah uh Polo or you're like a jinko guy and jinko felt like the way to go it felt like the was that did you take it all the way to like skate shoes yeah I had some air walks and some uh air walks was really the skate shoes I had air walks what about Etnies you remember Etnies I don't

remember Andy's I had some cecconis I had lime green sauconis I don't even know what a Saucony is did you skateboard no but I was uh I looked like I do it in a lot of room in those pants yeah I mean I could do stuff sure but I did I don't like stuff moving under my feet like that I'm not good

I got on a skateboard life is okay keep going well I got on a skateboard and I was like just messing around and I slipped and fell right on my shoulder and I was like all right I'm about done with that you know what I mean were you into sports and stuff or I played all the sports to some degree I played

football in Middle School not very good I just didn't like it I like back backyard football but then when I was on the team I loved it for a little while and then we had to do these hitting drills and it's like where you line up about uh you know 10 yards from each other and you just run straight at each other

and hit each other just start on your back uh no we didn't have to do that and I was like jeez I don't want to do that I mean it's a big part of football yeah it's just running at you and I'm you know my school was good uh we've been yeah I don't know if we've ever won state but we've been

to the state championship before you know so it's like we're good so it's like you're playing against really good players and I was like I don't like this and I was gonna quit I had all my stuff one day and my mom picked me up and she goes what are you doing I was like I'm quitting and she goes all right go

tell your coach so I went and put all my stuff back in the locker and I played the rest of the year I was like I'm not going to tell my coach I'm quitting I was just gonna walk off oh so because she forced you to really confront it you just weren't yeah I was like well I'm not doing that so I'd

rather just play I'd rather play than tell my coach I'm quitting do you feel like you're kind of still like that yeah I think so yeah I don't like to I'm not a quitter well not even as much that but there was there would have been a little bit of confrontation with quitting right I think it would be more of uh my

coach would just been like why yeah sort of thing legitimate question and I and my excuse would have been have to be I'm lazy or I'm weak and I didn't want to say any of those things okay so I'm like no I'll just keep playing I can handle it I just don't want to huh I feel like that was a pretty good

teaching moment I think so and you know I played soccer a little bit I played basketball a little bit all rec league stuff played baseball rec league not great at any of them but also not terrible sure I'm not definitely not great at basketball you're not I just I don't even want people to see me play basketball [Laughter] well I didn't even

know that would be I guess the other ones did a lot of people watch you play them yeah I mean nobody watched me play basketball I played directly I kind of signed up on my own I was a little older but the other rec league ones yeah y'all had big crowds fairly good size yeah so people you know I felt good about

my soccer my dad never liked soccer my dad is against it well you're from Alabama yeah and he did not support it and did not want me to play we all did it actually I didn't do it but all my buddies did it like our senior year of high school they all played soccer but it was like the weirdest that was just

not a normal thing for any of us to do to play soccer oh yeah did it when we were little kids right I mean that's mainly when I was doing it yeah when I was a little kid so you were out on all sports but yeah by the time I got to high school I was pretty much done well so what'd you

do like what were you into because I did you get into the comedy thing later uh you know I did comedy for the first time when I was 21. okay but I've never I'm not like the kind of guy that like does stuff you know what I mean like I don't like to do things people are always inviting me to do things

and I don't like to do stuff I'm kind of like I like comedy and then I like to be at home okay you know like when I'm at home I'm I got like a little garden I'm trying to grow I like to tell you I like to build things I like to cut the grass I got some land I got a cabin

uh that I that I had built the Amish built me a cabin and um I like to get out there and you know I planted some fruit trees and all that stuff is really fun to me but like just these activities that people are into like golf everyone I know is into golf now and I can't think of a worse way to

spend my time now I know it seems like everybody is into it now every comic I know plays cough I know I love it but I like I know everybody seems to love it now my dad used to say uh that golf is the best way to ruin a good cow pasture and um and I just I don't know I'm just I

actually got offered to play with Larry the Cable Guy and I'm like I just said to him I said I don't know who I am to be turning down an invitation from Larry the Cable Guy but I've never played golf and I would just embarrass you yeah and everyone else well the learning process I guess is what but you're saying you just

don't you're just kind of a homebody you just don't really like it yeah you know I'm gone so much I'm on the road so much but I even have friends that like one of my buddies he likes to go hiking when he's on the road and I'm like I just feel like so much of my energy goes into doing comedy so I

go I do I do an hour of Comedy then I do a meet and greet and then I sit down in the Green Room for about 30 minutes and then do another hour of comedy and another meet and greet uh so it's just like I that's I just conserve my energy all day that's what I tell myself but it really is like

if I leave my hotel and go do something the whole time I'm thinking I gotta get back to that hotel and do nothing I'm like a uh the day of a show I'm a solid don't want to do anything yeah because it's like you know it's like even working at night like I just used to have this job where I would work

like noon to nine o'clock and I'm like well the morning even if I get up at eight I'm not doing anything because I gotta go to work and that's how I feel now so you don't is your wife pretty active well my wife uh we have a small baby we have a baby that's almost two and then she's pregnant we're gonna have

another baby in June okay so she is pretty active though she always played Sports she played a lot of soccer in high school and uh she loves to run and work out and stuff like that but you know she's pregnant right now so it's really perfect for me we just both just get to sit around and I love that no kidding man

yeah uh did y'all uh when did how old is the smallest baby uh almost two oh for real yeah two in May was it like is that stuff it's so tough with traveling so much and being gone all the time but then also everybody tells me that there's never really the right time to have a kid uh did y'all plan it out

to a certain degree or well we didn't really plan to have kids we actually when we got together we said we would never have kids and then I don't know between I don't know what it is like I always didn't want to have kids because I felt like the world was like uh in a real bad place okay and then I'm like

all right pandemics here let's have a kid you know then you learned about grounding yeah I'm gonna ground this baby yes well you know what though I had a baby and I thought I thought you gotta have kids it's like it is like the way to level up as a human being you're like you're in this place and then you have a

kid and all of a sudden you're like oh this is a whole new uh mental space that I've not been in before where I'm like oh now I have this responsibility now this kid is like looking to me to teach it things to uh raise it to feed it and I'm like now I have to like you know it's accountability yeah so

it like really put me in a new spot and I'm like wow now I can't imagine not having a kid probably need a little context for the grounding comment because I think oh yeah we were talking about that before we started rolling yeah about grounding your baby well grounding I mean uh there's a documentary called earthing and that's another term for grounding

and I was just at home one day I love to watch YouTube I got on all these YouTube rabbit holes and I found this earthing documentary and I was just like you know what I'm gonna watch it I watched about 10 minutes of it and then I went and got a lawn chair and I took my laptop to the yard and I

took my shoes off and put them in the grass and watched the rest of the documentary and I've been sold on it since then why well I just even if I like they say there's a lot of science behind it like removing inflammation and things but I'm not reading that I don't know that the science is there but I there's some I

believe the idea that probably there was a time when everybody wasn't wearing shoes even my dad talks about having one pair of shoes and it was too small for him but he had to wear it because that's all he had right so there's got to be a time when people didn't have shoes all the time and we were and then you know

I don't know if you believe the Bible right we talk about being uh created from the earth right so we got to be connected to the Earth all the animals walk right on the earth on their bare feet we're the only species that puts rubber soles and then rubber soles is what um uh con you know conducts electricity I don't know if

conducts the right word but uh keeps the energy flow from happening okay oh right okay so if you so we're like wearing these rubber soles so we're never connected to the Earth so I just feel like there's some connection there yeah you're like the third person that's told me about it yeah I mean I don't know have you heard about the like

uh sun in your butthole thing I have heard about that's tough to do I don't live in that kind of neighborhood uh you know I do believe in getting Sun though being out in the sun just not that specific right I'll you know I'll keep my pants on and uh you know I've been I've burned myself in a Tanner bed here and

there and uh I love a tanning bed I feel like tanning bed's like the most redneck thing that people don't really associate with redneck but I love it I you do think it's redneck I do yeah in some in some ways I could uh I guess I could see how it would be a little bit I mean it seems like the person

that like invented it would have been a written oh yeah when I was like 18 or 19 I like to get high and go to the tanning bed and it was the best not what was the sensation you know you just warm in there so you're just like you got a little music going you're like you're warm and then that was back

in the day when tanning beds would like would run for 20 minutes yeah so you're in there for five beginning to freak out like how long have I been in here dude they do freak me out yeah it's just getting locked in one or oh I think that was like a final destination thing they had a different like tomb like a casket-like

tanning bed right it were well they all have a bit of that well the tanning beds I'm getting well some of you stand right yeah I don't like the standing that's not as relaxing I can't imagine it would be yeah I like to lay down in there definitely I mean it is it grosses me out and uh yeah and just freaks me

out yeah I feel like I could get out of that one pretty easy the ones that I go to I could I could get out of it well some of them have the holes on either end yeah I could squirm out of that yeah for sure yeah I mean I like to think I always when I get into an elevator I always

think if I got locked in here how could I get out of here and there's some like real old elevators where you're like you couldn't you'd be trapped uh well at the top no some I've been in somewhere it's like you look at the top and it's like solid and you're like oh this is terrifying I've been in I took one at

like an old like kind of like Mason's Lodge in Wilmington North Carolina it was like and it was just like a metal box were you playing there yeah at a Freemasons I think it was an old one no longer a lodge oh so it was just a bar well it was like I don't know it's like a temple of some sort it

used to be that sounds worse and it's like we got into this elevator it's real small real metal and it went real slow I mean I took the stairs down I was like I'm not getting back in that in a Freemasons Temple I don't know I could be wrong about but it was some Lodge of sorts where it was like this is

it feels like stuff's going on yeah totally yeah are you a Freemason no oh your manager said you were yeah I did that I don't know no I mean I you know I got um yeah I mean I'm no I'm not in any kind of clubs I'm sure you've gone down the rabbit hole right yeah I mean I've gone down them all

but uh no I'm not in any clubs are you a sucker for uh not a sucker but are you are you uh pretty aware of most conspiracy theories I think I'm aware of probably everyone once in a while someone will hit me with something I'll go I've not heard of that what was the most recent one uh I don't know somebody did

tell me something the other day I forget I mean there's been so many but um I don't know I mean I like them but you know sometimes you get into it and people freak out and they're like oh you're such an idiot and I'm like I'm just talking I'm just asking some questions yeah I'm just hanging out yeah I mean there's got

to be some that are true some that are false uh I'm kind of open to most of it yeah here's one that always uh my favorite ones I wouldn't want to talk about on a podcast interesting your favorite ones okay yeah I mean you know it's just it's wild stuff yeah you keep it to yourself I mean I got into the whole

idea of that dinosaurs aren't real okay and I think I'm at that place all right that sounds like a fun one I guess I haven't technically oh that's like all these uh museums they all have it's like they'll go we found this bone and we can tell this bone is from a Tyrannosaurus Rex so then they create the rest of the bones

and put it on display I just haven't done that much research on like how they figure out like what a dinosaur looked like I guess I always just assumed that they already had all the bones yeah I mean I think that's a natural assumption oh you found a lot of these and that's why you've come to this but they sort of just

extrapolated out of it I think so I mean some people will debate it and say no we found complete but I don't I don't think so yeah and there's reptiles on Earth right now that as long as they live they never stop growing so you know imagine one there's I saw an alligator on a golf course and on a video I wasn't

there on a golf course in Florida and it was huge like if you know give that thing another hundred years I guess I never knew that all reptiles are like that I don't think all but I think there are some yeah but Gators are like the others I think so I never knew that they never stopped growing so they just have to

be killed I guess so or you know they might die on their own but don't they live for hundreds of years yeah it's like you know they got these giant turtles yeah uh there's a lizard that looks like a little tiny Triceratops it has a little kind of the little kind of horns there's a insect that can uh cause an electric Spark

uh is that not just like a uh not like a firefly no like it's like uh forget what it's called I guess that would be the definition of it some kind of beetle it's uh the uh I forget what the Beetle's called but it can cause like a little like it squirts out a little poison but it's almost like a little bit

of a flame okay yeah sorry I'm really immature yeah it's okay yeah it gets yeah the word made me uncomfortable yeah it squirts out yeah I laughed again yeah there's a uh I did some sailing uh years ago and we went from Saint Thomas in the Bahamas I'll get there they were like where did that come from and we went from uh

Saint Thomas in the Virgin Islands we were going up to the Bahamas but like off the coast of Cuba they have that bioluminescent Plankton I think is what it is oh yeah so like off the back of that boat the uh the wakes oh yeah light up in the middle of the night yeah the oceans are wild see that's another thing right

they're always telling us that they're off on Mars and they have a Rover on Mars but even our own oceans they've barely explored yeah and there's some absurd amount that we don't even yeah it's like so I'm like let's stop worrying about space no kidding and let's focus on the oceans let's find out what's going on yeah wouldn't you wouldn't you wouldn't

it be more logical to live underwater before we like live on Mars yeah that's what I'm saying let's see what's happening let's see what's happening down there everyone you know it's like there's always like some new animal popping up from the ocean it's creepy it creeps me out yeah I mean that's what I that's what I want to get into what's going

on in the oceans have you ever are you like an ocean guy like do you enjoy the water I like the ocean yeah do you ever been scuba diving uh I've been snorkeling never scuba diving okay I actually went snorkeling very hungover in Key West one time and that wet is our last day in Key West and they were like the water's

so rough we're willing to uh you know let you all come back tomorrow when it's better they weren't willing to refund but they would let us come the next day right and we're like well this is our last day so we went out we're snorkeling we feel like we're about to drown out there my buddy's throwing up in the water he's so

hungover yeah the idea was that you get this long boat ride out into the new snorkel and then on the way back you get free beer the whole way back and we were like yes but we were so sick we couldn't even drink on the way back it was a nightmare I get super seasick yeah I get it badge hanging over the

side of the water was so rough and you know and then we're out there and we're scuba we're snorkeling I'm like seeing like barracudas and stuff like that I'm like I don't know if I'm supposed to be swimming with barracudas did they hang out underneath the boat I don't know I was not that close to the vote they kind of told us

to go on out a little bit did you see one uh attack another fish I didn't see that it was hard to see anything I mean the water was so rough it was hard to swim it wasn't a lot of fun it wasn't no and I'm a good swimmer but I don't usually swim with flippers on sure so I don't know how

to no in my mind every time you swim you have flippers on I don't know how to get it go I got a little nice little you know when you're in the water and you're just kind of like kicking your feet I'm very good at that's tough with flippers it's just a longer yeah it's a longer deal you gotta have a little

bit more quad yeah I'm a great swimmer that's probably the sport I'm best at and my dad would not let me join the swim team okay so he was like classic southern yeah like no swimming well soccer he had a pool and he was like you gotta pool right out there's no reason but just by God don't race your friends in it

yeah and then you know years later like my dad he wouldn't let me join the swim team because he said he would have to he lived about 30 minutes away from my hometown so my parents are divorced so he was like you know I spend every other week with him in the summer and he's like I'm not driving you every day to

uh swim practice you gotta you know you gotta pull right out there like years later I was probably 26 or something I'm swimming at his house he goes you should have joined the swim team no idea what you yeah how much you wanted to yeah I mean because you know at that time I was probably just get I might not even been

that old maybe 24 and I was not into comedy I didn't go to college I don't know what I'm doing with my life sure and I had other friends that got like college scholarships for swimming and I was just like man yeah this would work this could have that could have been me I can't do the speedo thing yeah I mean I

don't know I never oh so you're undecided like you might have loved it yeah just I'm saying at that time at 24 when my dad's like you should have joined the swim team I'm at a place in my life where I'm like yeah I wanted to right and you didn't let me and now I'm at this weird place in my life where

I don't know what I'm gonna be doing what were you doing well I waited tables for a while I sold pesticides for about eight years I was a pesticide salesman I was a sales rep I sold to Lowe's in Home Depot oh okay it's probably not a bad day it was a good job but I mean that was not what I wanted

to do that's not what you had already so you started comedy technically like at 21 or it's the first time you did it at 21 and it went pretty well but then I started kind of bombing a lot and I was like I just wasn't started bombing yeah my very first time I did comedy was good really but then I couldn't every

joke I seem to write after that was just kind of bombing and I was like I don't know what I'm doing and I quit and then I started back about 25 or 26. is that uncommon to do well the first time you try it I don't know I mean um I see a lot of people bomb the first time they do comedy

sure but I don't I don't think I saw Aaron Weber he's a friend of mine I don't think I saw him the first time I doing comedy but it was early on and I was like oh this guy's great oh really yeah so once in a while you see someone you're like oh they get it how long you think it took you

like what I guess what was that process when you really started bombing and did you just dig deeper you quit for a little bit Yeah quit for a little bit I think I lived a little life um and you know when I was doing it the first time I was just drinking all the time while I was doing it like I would

to battle the nerves I would drink and then I would drink too much sometimes it would go great sometimes I'd bomb depending on how the buzz was hitting me you know what I mean like again yeah right where you're like everything you say is funny and you're just hitting yeah and then other times it's like you're just you know rambling on and

let me ask you this I because I've had my booze moments of dealing with nerves uh but I would never get like hammered or anything but you know you catch a little buzz yeah and it would be I started having these you know like four songs in five songs in I like they're like they're not like a full panic attack but you

just don't feel in control oh yeah and it's a little bit of like oh no like and it probably would last like three or four songs and I'd have to just kind of I'd probably do another shot or something and then it would be a little bit better but I would have that little like four songs in moment where I would Panic

oh yeah and then when I was like doing it like sober uh getting up there's a little bit more difficult you have a little bit more nerves but then I don't have that like four or five song and panic attack it's like I get halfway through the first song and I'm good and then I'm just I'm actually like novel concept I'm better

yeah because I'm not inebriated but I want is it the same I don't think I ever really had that kind of like anxiety thing but I just would like know that it wasn't going well right so that didn't create like you didn't start freaking out well I guess I maybe I was and maybe that's why I quit in the end but I

was just it's so long ago when that was happening that I that I don't know but I'm like I just had to like once I quit drinking like when I went back at 25 I was doing comedy sober I was still drinking but I would do comedy and then drink after okay and then as I went along I started getting better at

comedy and then I would start to drink earlier and then in 2012 I quit drinking and that's when like my comedy just got just amazingly better right away really I just was like now very clear in my mind and comfortable with who I was and wasn't you know I think uh drinking was like you know making up for confidence stuff yeah and

I and I think I gained the confidence when I quit drinking because I like took control of my life yeah because I quit drinking I quit a job I hated I did all I made all these major changes at one time and I just took control of my life and I was like wow this feels good to be in control did it

make your writing better yeah I mean and even now it's like I don't even really write that much I mean I just I just come up with something I go I'd like to talk about that and then I talk about it on stage and it may be good it may not but I just keep doing it until it becomes something that's the

thing that is does seem to be quite a bit different with the comedy world as opposed to writing songs is y'alls is so heavily tied to people's reaction oh yeah and like building out your whole your whole bit also if I use words and stuff that don't make any sense in the comedy world I apologize I don't really know that much about

it no I mean that makes sense though because it's like if it doesn't matter how good I think the joke is if no one's laughing at it right it's not good right but they're actually but there are a tremendous amount of uh um similarities in terms of uh performance with songwriting and in uh comedy that it's kind of odd that I don't

hear comedians make the association as much because it's like it's very similar in a lot of ways yeah I mean well I'm right up in it you know because I live in Nashville so I do a lot of stuff like I do the Opry a bunch and so I like I do a lot of shows with musicians yeah so I think it's

very much the same yeah I mean it's like the writing process is a bit different but even then I mean I think in Nashville they're doing these writers rounds all the time where you know that's basically an open mic for musicians totally and uh yeah I mean I think it's so much the same the part that I envy about the comedy world

is the phase of getting something going and getting a little bit of notoriety our deal is heavily influenced by perception of like how much other people like you and it would still exist in comedy but there's a lot of people especially like in the Nashville world it's a lot of it's a facade and you're trying to act bigger and like you got

more going on than you really do and I envy comedy in the sense that there's a lot of guys that lean into the fact that I'm just a dirtbag I ain't got nothing going on oh yeah it all and it is endearing and sometimes like makes them funnier but like I guess you it depends on what like you're going for in the

music thing but you have to like almost it's like a lot of people are always having to put on this like show a little bit and everybody's like stroking their ego it takes on a little bit of it didn't but I'm not super into yeah I mean that was my favorite thing to do was to show myself doing bad gigs yeah showing

myself staying at a bad hotel but then you start getting agents and managers and it's like if you're now posting you're doing a bad gig and posting you're at a bad Hotel then now it's like there's other people involved to where it's like you're kind of making them look bad sure other people are like oh you're with this person and you got

this bad gig so and I don't really have bad gigs now I kind of wish I did just for that uh because I like that I like it for real I don't I don't want all my gigs to be bad but I like uh to do some weird bad gigs once in a while sure you know just hole in the wall places

where you know people are listening but it's not like you know top of the you know now I'm doing the best clubs and I'm doing theaters and I'm do you know I just did a couple of shows at the Ryman I did a you know Kid Rock's Comedy Jam at the Ryman and it's like you know working with you know Big Time

comics and it's like all that's great I mean and that's what you want totally but it's like it's fun to do some crappy room where I feel like I write my best jokes when I feel like the audience has is not really into what I'm doing because then I'm like all right if you're not into my best jokes then I'm just going

to give you some new stuff and I'm just gonna riff a bit Yeah because what does it matter and so you typically find new probably better stuff through that process yeah I mean early on I mean I was writing so much stuff because I was doing so many bad gigs that he'd go up there and I'd do these jokes that were working

great and you know you go to a big city like even some cities that you know uh I feel like are not great cities anymore are great comedy cities like the audience is a really like I you know I don't want to Portland yeah well that's exactly what I was gonna say I don't wanna that's funny you said that because that was

what I was gonna say it is I was there in 2017 and I had a really great time in the city and I was there recently and I was like a little sketched out by the city yeah but the audiences are amazing well they're uh it's probably something to be said just when there's that level of chest lostness and darkness in an

area like in the same way like a lot of comedians have a little bit of that inside themselves and like if the audience has some of that then there's probably yeah I mean there was something because it was like man like the every all the streets were all graffitied up and there were tents everywhere but uh most of the shows were sold

out and I mean it was it was hot shows well we're I'm not saying anything that you don't already know but we're just in a world now where uh there's a lot of people that don't want to hear anything that conflicts with their ideology or View worldview and then there's a whole other part of people that like that's all they want to

hear because it's a knee-jerk reaction to the other side and they're like no anything goes so like for comedians I feel like it's a really great opportunity to blow the doors wide open with some stuff well I like you know my comedy is all about not touching any of that stuff sure and I feel like people love it because it's like it's

a great escape because all our movies have some kind of agenda in them now so much music does I mean everything and so much comedy does so when you can go see a show where you're like oh this is like just an escape yeah I think people love it that's why I was drawn to you initially yeah um and that was I

mean shoot that was probably three years ago I think I because I saw you here yeah you came here at the kovacia yeah definitely actually you know I didn't talk about this much for a while but it's like when I did this club in Dallas in 2020 in May of 2020. the club says they were the only Club open in the world

are you serious and I figured the country because I knew people weren't doing comedy so I feel like I was like the only headliner in the country in a comedy club on that week and it was sold out yeah I mean we you know we were pretty low capacity yeah but it was sold out yeah and you crushed dude it was so

fun well because everybody was so excited at that point we had all been in our houses or at least not allowed to do anything for two months dude it was so great man uh yeah it was a blast my wife and she's not like super into comedy she's not in a comedy but yeah and I don't know a lot about it but

really any other comedian I've ever gone and seen was like a you know like a Ron White or something oh yeah and like you'd sort of know what you're getting into you followed him for a little bit uh and I've been to comedy clubs but it felt way more like you know a piano bar type five where they're just yeah you don't

know who it is and yeah they're really funny but you don't know anything about them and so you were actually the first one that it was more uh like in my world like where I'm playing you know rooms that have 200 or 300 people right and so somebody listens to my music and comes into that environment to hear me play my songs

that's different than somebody listening to Wallin or something and going to one of his shows it's just a different environment different vibe and uh and it was just really cool because I had already I think I'd message you or something I was like dude I'm just a big fan like you're really funny and uh I said I was coming to the show

or something it was like cool to sort of in some ways get to know you a little bit and uh and then go see because there is a little apprehension probably in the same way of somebody coming to see me play where it's like oh there's probably a reason he's not huge yet like you're kind of expecting for maybe to not be

great right and uh or you just don't know what you're getting into yeah and then you know and then I go watch it's just like this dude has been doing this for a long time and he's so polished and he's just crushing well thank you know the thing for me is I started comedy in Charleston South Carolina and there was no Comedy

Club so from 2008 to 2000 14 I was living there uh working my comedy and that there was no Club so I was never I never did a comedy club I never like so for six years I'm working this uh this was you know after I started back at 25 but I'm working this and then I get into the you know so

it's like I got six years before anybody in the comedy world even saw me right so I got to work out all the bad stuff so by the time you're seeing me in 2020 I mean I've been doing comedy for 12 years what a freaking grind though dude yeah totally you know that was a great show because actually the guy uh featuring

for me Alec parent he still features for me a bunch he features for all kinds of but for us all that night yeah Big Time comics and then the host Ralph Barbosa is from Dallas and he is completely blown up he is selling out he's on The Tonight Show he's selling out clubs all over the country and so that was a that

was a hot show hell yeah dude it was so good and in that dude that was like that was like right at the beginning of it really festering for you because I found you through social media oh yeah and uh and then yeah since then well I got on Tick Tock during covet that's that was the best thing that happened to me

was yeah cause I thought Tick Tock was stupid well yeah I mean I guess it is but I was at all but it's free and you get to put your stuff out but I just parent actually started he told me to uh he was like you should put some videos on Tick Tock yeah so I put three videos up and one of

them really took off and I was like oh this is great so I just started working it and so then that's when it really did you already know uh Nate in them before then I knew Nate a little bit uh Aaron and bro Brian the other people on nateland I know I've been knowing for a while they've done a lot of Road

gigs with me okay but I knew Nate a little bit I just always I find it interesting that you guys are all uh of like similar values and uh sort of similar backgrounds in some ways it's just a little bit rare for sure in the comedy where it's rare in my world and it seems more rare in your world yeah uh and

I was just I was curious how you guys just like found people that were like-minded and kind of had similar lifestyle like that's got to be tough to find yeah I mean Nashville weird I mean like it is true so many comedy scenes it doesn't exist almost at all people have emailed me about like they're like hey I'm a clean comic and

I'm like the only clean comic in my whole city uh but in Nashville we have this weird uh like uh clean comedy uh I don't know I don't know what you call it group of people like you got Henry Cho lives in Nashville who's uh clean comic you know John Crist uh Nate Aaron Brian yeah uh and then there's other guys Johnny

W is a guy he does churches Rick Roberts does a lot of corporate gigs but all just clean comics but it doesn't even like really strike me as necessarily clean comedy you guys are still like cool and it's not like you're a freaking some Oddball that can like only play in a church well that's a thing right and that's what I always

tell people I say my comment I say it's relatively clean and I say that uh if I don't tell you it's clean you're not gonna know it's clean yeah but you're gonna still bring up stuff about like you know whatever right now drinking and driving and smoking weed and all those sorts of things it's just real but you know and again like

I don't I'm no voice on Comedy I just have my little opinions but like the clean comment it just seems like at times we went through this phase of the shock factor of saying something that's outrageous right oh my gosh and like just dropping an F-bomb or something and it's like and now like I just enjoy seeing somebody that to be honest

it feels a little bit like low-hanging fruit in the same way as right now with music like put an F word in there and put explicit content on it and then it's gonna be like oh yeah that's edgy and I'm like nah dude you just like it's just low hanging fruit well that's what I always think with music is I'm like there's

so many good songs uh where they'll just throw the f word in there like for no reason I'm like you kind of ruin the song I think so like I'm like you know it's like my I had an art teacher that used to tell me that if you're people that cuss a lot it's because they have a lack of vocabulary yeah you

know that's what Mom said yeah it's my mom wait hold on I don't think so Mr Conway was I don't know if we want to go down that road but uh um but the uh you know I you know I didn't start out to be clean it was just kind of like that's just kind of how I am you know I also

causing my daily life but I try to not do it a lot sure you know but um yeah you try to try to not do it yeah but with comedy it's like it just does separate you in a way if you're like not doing that I can I say to people you know I have a like older parents you know will come

up to me and they'll say thanks for having the kind of show that I can bring my kids to yeah kids will be like in their 20s and then like 20 year old people can bring their parents to my show Absolutely it's like I you know I've showed I've had Comics that I like and I want to show it to my parents

or somebody and I'm like and then I'm listening to it and then I'm just like so embarrassed by what they're saying that it's like people tell me all the time they're like thanks for having the kind of Comedy that I can share with my family people will say my dad loves uh comedy but everybody's dirty now and me and him have really

been able to bond because I think you know I don't want to say my comedy's cool but I think it's cool enough that dude it's hip yeah like it's not it's not like it's out of style or something at all and that's the great thing about comedy as long as you stay relevant yeah uh you never get too old for comedy once

you start losing touch with what society's doing then you're then you get old quick my thing with just even hear you talk about this I think my main thing with the whatever you want to call it dirty comedy or something it feels inauthentic to me and here's why it's like if I were to take like the dirtiest comic ever uh maybe not

ever but uh somebody that I might based on their comedy I might feel uncomfortable inviting them over to have dinner with my family or my grandma or something right yeah um take that guy invite him over for dinner with my grandma and my parents and he's probably not gonna act like how he acts on stage and he probably still could be funny

right and that to me is like where it feels inauthentic it's like you would be different but like you I don't think you would necessarily be around certain people and then you would start just like being totally different right it's where it's like you're making an effort to just I guess it's the effort of being funny and you're trying to use these

tactics that you know are going to get shock factor to be funny right and it feels inauthentic to me yeah for sure I mean now on the other hand there is like uh New York comedy where people are really dirty and it feels like that I'm like oh this is who you are all the time right that's why I said not maybe

not the dirty yes because there probably would be some people that I'm bottom over and I'm like oh my God like I just did some shows with like uh you know Robert Kelly and uh Big Jay oakerson and it's like these are New York guys and I'm like I bet they are almost exactly like this all the time sure family dinners you

know but it's like there is a I feel like a southern thing where it's like it's you know I don't know I just I still don't I won't cuss around my parents I don't you know I don't around the older people I have like I have a hard time like you know I'm all about being respectful to older people totally to where

I feel like you know I'm almost like even like in the same business as me I get like I find myself falling into like I'm the kid they're the adult relationship and I'm 40 years old I totally know what you mean I wonder if that is like a southern thing yeah I probably I think so yeah but like I have a friend

she's from upstate New York and you know I went to I went to a lunch with her with some other people and they were just like a nice couple of people and my friend she was just dropping f-bombs the whole time and she had no idea she was doing it she's like I'm sorry I don't know what I'm doing it's almost like

somebody saying like yeah all the time where you're like maybe just clean that up like it's just annoying if every passing word is like and like yes if you just in put an F there's people that talk like it's just like that's kind of a boring word when you're using it so much it is true and there's a lot of those I

have a thing where I say you know what I mean a lot in my comedy and but you leaned into it yeah you make fun of myself without it but I just say it I try to not say it as much but it just comes in so that's something you had to yeah I like it though in some instances like you know

you tell the joke say you know what I'm you're not really asking the question right but I like that you just found the thing that annoyed you about yourself and then just like lean into it a little yeah or just use it precisely yeah I mean like even like just moving around I can't sit still I'm always adjusting and my hands are

always going and touching my glasses and my hat and my belt and I'm like but look it's a prime example of somebody being a little bit just like having some uniqueness about themselves and then you're able to lean into it and people love it and I think it's awesome yeah because I thought if I clean all that up well then what am

I doing I'm just standing there yeah and I don't want to just be standing there I don't want you to either you know I gotta move around a little bit yeah sure for sure man well uh speaking of moving around we gotta cut this short so that you can go outside and move around oh I'm gonna try to get some I'm trying

to go for a walk today but you're not doing it you're not doing the uh you're just you're keeping clothes on yeah I'll keep you know I always say when I'm in Florida and I walk down the street I take my shirt off and I do that people think I'm joking about it but I'm in Florida and I gotta take a walk

I take the shirt off I feel like it's total Florida etiquette and you know you gotta Loop it in your uh yeah because you need it when you go into the store 100 yeah well I mean maybe depending on the story they just need to know that you have it yes they're not gonna make you put it on always you don't want

to look homeless like you do own a shirt sure yeah sure but you don't have to wear yeah no shoes that's a perfect place for grounding yeah Earth thing everything yeah I mean it is great all the lizards I mean I found the farther south you get in Florida the bigger the lizards get but we're not in like a David Ike blizzard

people thing are we well I've been down that too yeah I mean I know David Ike very well and there's probably some lizards there's some David ACT people down there yeah well there's a movie uh with Roddy Piper called they live have you ever seen that uh it's great it's a fun I don't even want to ruin it for you but it's

uh it's a fun skinny halfway ruin it for me all right um well so uh Roddy Piper uh that I don't you know he finds these sunglasses right and if you've watched any conspiracy video you've probably seen the picture we find these sunglasses and then when he wears the sunglasses he can now see through everything okay so it'd be like an advertisement

for something but he puts the glasses on and it just says consume and then oh little well no I guess and then like he's looked at the money and the money said I am your God and why and so and then but there are also these alien people amongst us is it a comedy uh it's kind of funny I don't think it's

a comedy but then he wears them and he can see because like the alien people look like us until you wear the glasses and then you can and then you can see that they're aliens and there's a one scene where you know they realize what's going on the alien people and they say into their little watch she goes we've got one that

can see and then it and it becomes uh it's great I mean what's the name of it they live they live it's really fun yeah I mean it is uh a bad movie but a pretty fun watch yeah well I'm all in yeah I forget the director James Carpenter maybe but then you left me a little bit of meat on that bone

right yeah there's a lot going on I mean there's a lot even I watched it a second time and I was shocked by some stuff that happened okay but there's a nice fight scene in there where he's trying to get his friend to put on the glasses and his friend won't do it so they end up in this long fight and the

fight drags out so long that you're thinking you could edit this down a little bit and in the end his friend puts on the glasses and a lot of people say that's what it's like if you're trying to wake people up to something is that like you they first there's a denial and then there's an argument and then you get into this

long fight and in the end if they put the glasses on they go oh now I see what you're talking but it's a journey yes it's a journey yes this movie feels like it's probably four hours it I don't know how long it's not that long it's uh it's a good it's a good movie though Roddy Piper is great he has one

terrible line uh that kind of got used a bunch and I don't know the line I don't want to butcher it but it's uh he says something like I'm here to kick ass and chew bubble gum and I'm all out of bubble gum you know but he's being serious I don't know it sounds great yeah it is great it is great well

I'm going to send you a full review okay please do yeah I will yeah I think everyone should all anybody listening to this should watch the movie and send us a full review we'll do it to you yeah do a YouTube video I'll do I'll put a compilation together of all the reviews of they left I can't get actually that would be

pretty funny yeah I can't guarantee people will watch it but uh I'll watch it I'll be there I've done some videos that I've worked very hard on very low views and then I'll do another one that I'm like I don't even know why I'm posting this and it's viral you know dude I have like this feeling that it is the amount of

effort you put into the video on the platform so like how much time you spend editing The Tick Tock video on Tick Tock okay judges a little bit of how well it does okay because like they're wanting to get attention from the consumer just as much as the person creating the content yes okay you know they're also you're saying if you edit

it using Tick Tock it'll go further that's my little one little theory that makes sense use our tools and we'll push don't be editing on your own because they just want your attention yeah come here you know but I put on the glasses I said I know what you're up to tick tock yeah well if we had those glasses and could look

at our cell phones I would be afraid to what it said terrifying isn't it crazy that the one thing that has created uh probably it spread the most uh evil in some ways is the very thing that could be used to spread like some of the most good and yeah that like what a dichotomy I mean my yeah I mean it's like

you know it's like uh Lord of the Rings you know the ring uh you know you can turn invisible and it's got a lot of power but sucks you in yeah that's true I guess Lord of the Rings was on it pretty early yeah really sucks you in yeah and a lot of people say that even the Apple logo you know with

the bitten the forbidden fruit yeah that one's pretty blatant and there also is a thing that if you hold two of the Apple logos up side by side it looks like a gray alien head it like if that if you put the bit the bite part up yeah I'll have to show you um it's pretty wild I don't know if it means

anything well you've seen the monster thing right Monster Energy yeah that's the 666 thing uh-huh yeah that one's pretty blatant too yeah I don't mess with it yeah Red Bull just an old classic this is a ripple this is the Red Bull can oh okay I put something else in there oh okay yeah I just don't like red but they are a

sponsor so yeah oh okay well uh hopefully they don't hear what you've just said yeah it was also it was untrue as well but yeah you know Red Bull's just an old classic two bulls fighting while the Sun's going down two bulls fighting grounding each other yes just getting earthy together yes protecting their territory you know like the Bulls do all right

dude well let's go get in the sun all right let's do it I'm taking my pants off though all right I'm doing the uh yeah that's anyway any way you can make skin to ground contact hey all right I'm doing that now we're going to your show tonight yeah it's gonna be great and then you're playing you're touring a bunch so just

go to your website yeah I'm all over the place I don't know when this comes out May 13th I'll be recording a full hour special in Knoxville Tennessee hell yeah dude The Bijou Theater May what May 13th bro heck yeah are you doing that like in-house setting it up in-house I guess I don't know how the production of those things I am

I've hired my own people to do it yeah so and then possibly we'll try to get sold to some platform but I like the idea of just putting it on YouTube myself love it that's what I like and then I have I own everything I have complete control that's what I'm all about Indie yes Indie artist yeah all the way hell yeah

dude well thank you for doing this we're going to the show tonight yes foreign [Music]